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Author: SpeedingSpeeding Date: Jul 24, 2007 00:42
====== Alt.Seduction.Fast FAQ And Information 1/2 ======
Posting-Frequency: weekly
Last-modified: 5/15/2007
One of the first FAQs for ASF, dating back to 1994, can be found at
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.seduction.fast/browse_thread/thread/cb
1070b38474952b/1f8ddef64090b6f5#1f8ddef64090b6f5
Please post a comment in the thread for any changes,
additions, or corrections you'd like to see. The actual posting
of the FAQ is currently maintained by Speeding, with input
from Now Im Confused and dracozna.
All input is welcomed and open for discussion. This document
has been created to answer questions about seduction
related information and discussion. While some products,
services, or individuals might be named in this document, no
endorsement or sponsorship is meant or should be implied.
All information in this document should be assumed to refer to
ASF, unless otherwise specifically stated.
This document contains six parts formatted in two files.
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Author: OdiousOdious Date: Jul 24, 2007 07:29
"Speeding" biz.org> wrote in message
news:m3ipi.39216$dI1.15850@newsfe08.phx...> ====== Alt.Seduction.Fast FAQ And Information 1/2 ======
> Posting-Frequency: weekly
> Last-modified: 5/15/2007
>
> One of the first FAQs for ASF, dating back to 1994, can be found at
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.seduction.fast/browse_thread/thread/cb
> 1070b38474952b/1f8ddef64090b6f5#1f8ddef64090b6f5
>
> Please post a comment in the thread for any changes, > I agree, I'd like to cut it to one post also. Any suggestion on what to
> narrow down?
How about we put the FAQ on a website and just post a link, oh wait...
REGULARS IN THIS GROUPS DID THAT VERY FUCKING THING YEARS AGO!
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Jul 25, 2007 11:22
> How about we put the FAQ on a website and just post a link, oh wait...
> REGULARS IN THIS GROUPS DID THAT VERY FUCKING THING YEARS AGO!
Which led to $5,000 workshops, mainstream books, prime-time TV shows, and
movies, all of which profited from the FREE contributions of individuals who
now see no reason to further the theory, especially since they can just use
their best stuff to get laid while making money doing other things, or even
teach the women.
On most of the web boards, no one really has much good to say about any of
the sites or methods as much as people here claim. Most find it
overcommercialized, with the same advice given over and over again with new
packaging to get more money. They also see "gurus" using money and status
to get laid rather than the very game they teach.
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Date: Jul 25, 2007 11:50
>> How about we put the FAQ on a website and just post a link, oh wait...
>> REGULARS IN THIS GROUPS DID THAT VERY FUCKING THING YEARS AGO!
>Which led to $5,000 workshops, mainstream books, prime-time TV shows, and
>movies, all of which profited from the FREE contributions of individuals who
>now see no reason to further the theory, especially since they can just use
>their best stuff to get laid while making money doing other things, or even
>teach the women.
...and you failed to do it. THEY made $$. You are poor..U failed...
..now you are pissed off over it? Why not try to do it right..?
...trouble is, by now, any 'markets' out there are aware of your posting
history, and just..at about 11:11 day or night, laugh at you, grp-ie.
>
>On most of the web boards, no one really has much good to say about any of
>the sites or methods as much as people here claim. Most find it
>overcommercialized, with the same advice given over and over again with new
>packaging to get more money. They also see "gurus" using money and status
>to get laid rather than the very game they teach.
..yet..they hand them $$. Something no one wants to do with you.
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Author: SpeedingSpeeding Date: Jul 25, 2007 14:29
Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote in
news:Y9GdnSf9uodjCTrbnZ2dnUVZ_o6knZ2d@ pghconnect.com:
> Which led to $5,000 workshops, mainstream books, prime-time TV shows,
> and movies, all of which profited from the FREE contributions of
> individuals who now see no reason to further the theory, especially
> since they can just use their best stuff to get laid while making
> money doing other things, or even teach the women.
>
> On most of the web boards, no one really has much good to say about
> any of the sites or methods as much as people here claim. Most find
> it overcommercialized, with the same advice given over and over again
> with new packaging to get more money. They also see "gurus" using
> money and status to get laid rather than the very game they teach.
Ray... it has nothing to do with profit or such. If someone wants to
create a forum and make a profit doing so, I say MORE POWER TO THEM!!!.
Especially when it's a forum and service as excellent as FastSeduction.
Formhandle has gotten lots of kudos from the Community... all of it well
deserved. He created a hell of a nice forum. I have no issue with his
forum and think it is a marvelous product.
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Author: Krus T. OlfardKrus T. Olfard Date: Jul 25, 2007 16:17
gordon roy parker, creator of nothing that anyone will pay any money for,
whined:
> On most of the web boards, no one really has much good to say about
> any of the sites or methods as much as people here claim.
Once again gordon roy parker passes ass gas and claims that it has some
relationship to reality.
I see very few people here except the gurus themselves (the few that
bother with a.s.f., most knowing it's a wasteland as far as generating
business) claiming that any particular method is that good... oh, and
don't forget the gordy loser who has even claimed that he knows three
words that will get any man laid by any woman. Yeah, don't forget the
loser's claims...
--
I'm an opinionated bastard. Everything I post is my opinion. If you do
not like my opinions then killfile me - if you like my opinions then send
me money.
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Author: OdiousOdious Date: Jul 26, 2007 00:56
"Speeding" biz.org> wrote in message
news:WgPpi.39508$dI1.31433@newsfe08.phx...> Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote in
> news:Y9GdnSf9uodjCTrbnZ2dnUVZ_o6knZ2d@ pghconnect.com:
>
> >> Which led to $5,000 workshops, mainstream books, prime-time TV shows,
>> and movies, all of which profited from the FREE contributions of
>> individuals who now see no reason to further the theory, especially
>> since they can just use their best stuff to get laid while making
>> money doing other things, or even teach the women.
>>
>> On most of the web boards, no one really has much good to say about
>> any of the sites or methods as much as people here claim. Most find
>> it overcommercialized, with the same advice given over and over again
>> with new packaging to get more money. They also see "gurus" using
>> money and status to get laid rather than the very game they teach.
>
>
> Ray... it has nothing to do with profit or such. If someone wants to ...
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Author: OdiousOdious Date: Jul 26, 2007 01:23
"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:Y9GdnSf9uodjCTrbnZ2dnUVZ_o6knZ2d@pghconnect.com...>> How about we put the FAQ on a website and just post a link, oh wait...
>> REGULARS IN THIS GROUPS DID THAT VERY FUCKING THING YEARS AGO!
>
> Which led to $5,000 workshops, mainstream books, prime-time TV shows, and
> movies, all of which profited from the FREE contributions of individuals
> who now see no reason to further the theory, especially since they can
> just use their best stuff to get laid while making money doing other
> things, or even teach the women.
>
Ray is realizing that with more and more info being exchanged on forums he
can be banned from.... there's less and less info for him to steal, rename
and try to claim was his idea.
He fails to comprehend that TV shows, movies, workshops, books, and seminars
on the subject of picking up women and seduction were all going on long
before www.fastseduction.com was established as an ASF resource. See gordon
is like a child, and if he doesn't know about something, it doesn't exist.
So when he learns about it, he thinks it's new to everyone else too.
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Author: DarkKoboldDarkKobold Date: Jul 26, 2007 11:39
On Jul 26, 2:23 am, "Odious" cox.net.nospam> wrote:> "Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" cybersheet.com> wrote in messagenews:Y9GdnSf9uodjCTrbnZ2dnUVZ_o6knZ2d@pghconnect.com...
>>>> How about we put the FAQ on a website and just post a link, oh wait...
>>> REGULARS IN THIS GROUPS DID THAT VERY FUCKING THING YEARS AGO!
>
>> Which led to $5,000 workshops, mainstream books, prime-time TV shows, and
>> movies, all of which profited from the FREE contributions of individuals
>> who now see no reason to further the theory, especially since they can
>> just use their best stuff to get laid while making money doing other
>> things, or even teach the women.
>
> Ray is realizing that with more and more info being exchanged on forums he
> can be banned from.... there's less and less info for him to steal, rename
> and try to claim was his idea.
>
> He fails to comprehend that TV shows, movies, workshops, books, and seminars
> on the subject of picking up women and seduction were all going on long
> beforewww.fastseduction.comwas established as an ASF resource. See gordon
> is like a child, and if he doesn't know about something, it doesn't exist. ...
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Author: SpeedingSpeeding Date: Jul 26, 2007 15:09
>> "Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" cybersheet.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:Y9GdnSf9uodjCTrbnZ2dnUVZ_o6knZ2d@pghconnect.com...
>>>>>> How about we put the FAQ on a website and just post a link, oh
>>>> wait... REGULARS IN THIS GROUPS DID THAT VERY FUCKING THING YEARS
>>>> AGO!
>>
>>> Which led to $5,000 workshops, mainstream books, prime-time TV
>>> shows, and movies, all of which profited from the FREE
>>> contributions of individuals who now see no reason to further the
>>> theory, especially since they can just use their best stuff to get
>>> laid while making money doing other things, or even teach the
>>> women.
> The most ironic part of it all is that FS wouldn't have been near as
> popular of a resource, if Gordon himself hadn't shown up. He alone is
> responsible for most people leaving. He is the reason for the success
> of his most hated enemy.
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