... ways in which we can interact with it. While a machine is certainly one kind of mechanism, a mechanism is not always a machine. Mechanisms are not merely physical constructions. Mechanisms are so egalitarian, anybody with a few bucks can buy one, the more bucks you have the nicer the mechanism. Having not paid attention, you seem to have missed the distinction I made ...

> "Tom" <dantPAYATTENTIONomel@comcast.net> wrote: <snip> "noname" <no@no.no> ...mechanisms are so egalitarian, anybody with a few bucks can buy one, the more bucks you have the nicer the mechanism. I guess I'm silly too, in addition to curious, I think mechanisms are nearly the polar opposite of magick. I would suggest that mechanisms are physically subject to ...

...is a better word) fashion you will find that mechanisms fall short... material reality has a structure and historicity that must be maintained and those may not be modified from within. Mechanisms are so egalitarian, anybody with a few bucks can buy one, the more bucks you have the nicer the mechanism. Having not paid attention, you seem to have missed the distinction I made ...

...net> wrote: <snip> "noname" <no@no.no> I'm curious. What's a rabid materialist such as yourself doing in alt.magick? Is magick about mechanisms these days? Goodness. Mechanisms are so egalitarian, anybody with a few bucks can buy one, the more bucks you have the nicer the mechanism. Oh no! Someone is edging closer to the troll cage! ...Tom is the list's troll; you won...

...these days? Yes, it is. As I said, a "mechanism" is a structure in which parts work together to produce a particular outcome. Rituals, for example. Or the Kabballah. Mechanisms are so egalitarian, anybody with a few bucks can buy one, the more bucks you have the nicer the mechanism. Having not paid attention, you seem to have missed the distinction I made between a machine ...

... but a pile of vague and unsupported generalizations. I'm curious. What's a rabid materialist such as yourself doing in alt.magick? Is magick about mechanisms these days? Goodness. Mechanisms are so egalitarian, anybody with a few bucks can buy one, the more bucks you have the nicer the mechanism. I guess I'm silly too, in addition to curious, I think mechanisms are nearly the polar...

... cultures are emotionally responsive to issues of fairness and reciprocity, which often expand into notions of rights and justice. Philosophical efforts to justify liberal democracies and egalitarian social contracts invariably rely heavily on intuitions about fairness and reciprocity. But now imagine society not as an agreement among individuals but as something that emerged organically ...

.... Notice that liberals tend be secular and irreligious but call for a truer implementation of Christian utopianism; liberals want to blur national and racial lines and promote egalitarianism. In contrast, notice that conservatives tend to be religious and moralistic in their professed values but their core passions revolve around nationhood and tribal traditionalism. Pat Buchanan is the ...

...we exist simply to spend and spend and then borrow and spend is just plain dumb and dangerous. But, conservatives and liberals have both supported such idea either through free-market or egalitarian doctrines. That Obama and McCain are blaming one another in front of the American people is ridiculous. It's the American people--of all classes--who created the current economic mess by...

... that we exist simply to spend and spend and then borrow and spend is just plain dumb and dangerous. But, conservatives and liberals have both supported such idea either through free-market or egalitarian doctrines. That Obama and McCain are blaming one another in front of the American people is ridiculous. It's the American people--of all classes--who created the current economic mess by ...