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Does your GURU have to become "female" to "get off?"         


Author: ZFORCE
Date: Jun 28, 2008 07:16

Well, the 100k a year seduction coach "Ray Gordon" AKA "Gordon Roy Parker"
does.
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Re: Ashlee Schull, live-in lover of Bryan Frost, is my video hypnotist         


Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot
Date: Jun 28, 2008 08:14

The previous poster is referring to a hypnosis mp3 I put on sale years ago
that contains a brief "feminization" routine that has nothing to do with its
"orgasm" routine, and which I no longer use. Gender-switching is a common
"convincer" in hypnosis, as those with any familiarty with stage hypnosis
would know.

For the past few years, however, my trances stem from a very skilled
hypnosis video which starred the extremely talented Ashlee Schull, currently
the live-in lover of a man named Bryan Frost (according to Ashlee's own
internet pages)

As personal information is apparently fair game for anyone on the internet,
why stop at just me? Everyone here obviously has no problem with it, so as
long as they keep posting mine, I'll make sure to include as much of it as
possible about anyone whose name turns up in the responses or refutations.

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Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
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Re: Does your GURU have to become "female" to "get off?"         


Author: HC
Date: Jun 28, 2008 08:56

On Jun 28, 10:16�am, "ZFORCE" wrote:
> Well, the 100k �a year seduction coach "Ray Gordon" AKA "Gordon Roy Parker"
> does.

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Re: Ashlee Schull, live-in lover of Bryan Frost, is my video hypnotist         


Author: SAWEDOFF.McSHOTGUN
Date: Jun 28, 2008 13:54

I BET U CAN HYPNOTIZE HOT CHICKS TO TAKE OFF THERE CLOTHES.... LOL

O\n Jun 28, 8:14 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:
> The previous poster is referring to a hypnosis mp3 I put on sale years ago
> that contains a brief "feminization"...
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot
Date: Jun 28, 2008 14:17

>I BET U CAN HYPNOTIZE HOT CHICKS TO TAKE OFF THERE CLOTHES.... LOL

Guys do that all the time already.

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Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru

Finding Your A-Game:
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!)
The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From

Click HERE: for the ORIGINAL pivot chapter:
http://www.cybersheet.com/pivot.pdf

Here's my Myspace Page: And Pickup Blog (FREE advice)
http://www.myspace.com/snodgrasspublishing

Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which
no longer work. Learn the methods the gurus USE with the money they make
from what they teach.

Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:
http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/?p=1187
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Re: Ashlee Schull, live-in lover of Bryan Frost, is my video hypnotist         


Author: Odious
Date: Jul 6, 2008 20:27

"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:da-dncUu77fWyPvVnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@pghconnect.com...
> The previous poster is referring to a hypnosis mp3 I put on sale years ago
> that contains a brief "feminization" routine

Actualy Gordo, I think they were talking about when you said you use your
hellen tapes to "convince me briefly that I'm female and get me off."

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.seduction.fast/msg/35e3cb7fb42bf214?dmode=source&hl...
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From: lemoderncave...@aol.com (LeModernCaveman)
Date: 02 Mar 2004 05:00:51 GMT
Subject: Re: What's up with Ray being a Fem online?
Message-ID: <20040302000051.20400.00000667@mb-m04.aol.com>

I sell feminization, but do not practice it.

Slight difference.
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http://www.inraptured.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=465

I don't rate myself but my style as done by Hellen works on me enough to
convince me briefly that I'm female and get me off.
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