> On Mar 23, 10:01 pm, "Odious"
cox.net.nospam> wrote:
>
> You just tried to lie your ass off, trying to deny ross jefferies
> failures
No, I did not deny that Ross has experienced some failures... in fact i
asked you to cite the claim where ross said he has a 100%% success rate, and
so far you can't.
and that the trade known as ss really sucks, any one who
> reads this post will show was a miserable failure ross is.
>
> Ross claims to have super human seduction skills. He can "Get Laid
> Now, just Ask Him How!
>
That slogan would seem to indicate to me that he is claiming he can teach
seduction skills skills... not that he has a 100%% successs rate.
> Then claims
>
> He can walk up to any girl, no matter how desirable, and within 20
> minutes, have this raving beauty Be-Lowing him like there's no
> tomorrow!
>
LOL You're just C&Ping Steele.
Quote where ross makes this specific claim... that he can have ANY girl he
approaches blowing him in 20 minutes.
> Then
>
> Every single FUCKING time that a journalist asks Ross to demonstrate
> his amazing seduction skills, he fails miserably!!!
>
> Then
>
> Every time Ross has an opportunity to strut his stuff, his stuff
> SUCKS!!
>
> Then
>
> And the sad thing is, these journalists aren't asking Ross to go out
> and get laid. They just want to see him actually get a phone number
> from someone, ANYONE, and Ross can't even do that!
>
> Then makes the excuse
>
> EXTRA set up a hidden camera, and let Ross pick up any girl that walks
> past him, and he stikes out every time!
LOL Yeah stand on the street coner and try to stop and pick up women....
with a camera crew half way down the block shootin gthe whole thing.
> Ross says it wasn't a fair
> test because he had to stand in one paticular area, so the camera
> could
> record his magic. But you see, Speed Secretion only works if you can
> walk alongside a girl. Yeah, Right!
So you are now claiming mirroring isn't a signifanct part of building
rapport?
You seem so eager to attack ross you'll contradict the core concepts in 3d
mind and Tom's other products.
>
> Then
>
> O-Kay, how 'bout the time when Comedy Central
LOL... did you read what you were C&Ping?
comedy central.... LOL!
There's a reason steele slinked off in shame.
> had a hidden camera
> follow Ross around while he hit on Hard Bods? The camera showed Ross
> WALKING around, approaching various girls, and getting shot down
> repeatedly. Ross was so inept at approaching women, that ON CAMERA he
> walks up to a guy walking his dog, and pays the guy to rent his dog,
> so
> that girls would talk to Ross!! I'm not making this up! He actually
> looks into the camera and says, "got me dog, now I'm gonna go get some
> girls." Is this pitiful or what?
>
> Then
>
> And who can forget the profile of Ross published in the Newtimes LA
> paper, a story that Ross praised to high heaven.
>
> The reporter had Ross and two of his top students spend FOUR hours
> roaming the Beverly Center, searching for women to hit on. And while
> the the article states that Ross and his students approached dozens of
> women, they failed to come up with even ONE phone number!!
That would be the same Newtimes LA article that said...
"...R. Don Steele's years-long effort to find even a single unhappy Speed
Seduction student willing to call Jeffries a fraud -- and claim a cash
reward from Steele -- has failed."
"After hanging out with Jeffries and his students for any length of time,
you get the feeling Steele will have a difficult time proving to a
jury that Jeffries is a fraud. "
"Jeffries had turned guys who freely admitted that they were losers and
hardly knew what to say to a woman into pickup machines. Guys who didn't
have the guts to speak to an attractive woman now approached them easily,
engaged them in conversation, and asked them to think about the nature of
attraction, how they form connections with men, and their deepest
emotions. Jeffries' students were barreling through coffee shops and
bookstores meeting more women in an hour than they previously did in a
typical year."
>
> Now you can twist and turn this any way you want
All I have to do is expose that you're C&Ping accusations that have already
been shot down.
Once again, you're proven an idiot who can;t understand what he reads.
This is exactly why you were so afraid to quote anything specific.
but the bottom line
No I called you a liar when you said that CBT takes a MINIMUM of 11
sessions, then lied and denied having said it.
Now you are lying again and changing your statement from minimum to "about."
> and I said it found that on a link,
> but couldn't find the link, so I posted two other links which one said
> CBT takes ten sessions and another web site says it takes 16.
No you cited a website that stated averages, NOT MINIMUMS... and that
clearly contradicted you claims saying specificaly focused issues can be
addressed in fewer sessions.
>
> So here is a link which says there was 13 sessions, for a CBT group
>
Are you a moron? A group... one group has a 13 session structured proram,
and you think that supports a claim that it takes a mimimum of 11 sessions
to work?
Are you that dumb or just that desperate?
>
http://www.cfidsselfhelp.org/artcl_cbt_try.htm
> Overcoming reluctance
>
> The course proved acceptable to participants, whatever their initial
> reluctance. Only one person dropped out, someone who moved away. Two
> others started late, so we ended with more people than we began with.
> And attendance was good. On average, class members came to 11 of the
> 13 sessions.
>
>
>
http://www.psychotherapy.slam.nhs.uk/Default.aspx?tabid=521
> How long does therapy last?
>
>
> A session of CBT lasts for one hour
> Approximately 18-20 sessions is an average number for a course of CBT
>
>
> The link for the 16 sessions.
>
>
http://www.nacbt.org/whatiscbt.htm
>
> 2. CBT is Briefer and Time-Limited.
> Cognitive-behavioral therapy is considered among the most rapid in
> terms of
> results obtained. The average number of sessions clients receive
> (across all
> types of problems and approaches to CBT) is only 16.
>
> Now with the given links anyone of reasonable intelligence, which
> would exclude you, would conclude that the statement, I gave of of 11
> sessions, would in fact be true,
No, since the statment you made was about MINIMUMS, and the sources are
talking about averages.
Do you understand what an average is?
> but you will continue your jive
Yeah that old jive called MATH.
>of I
> am a liar because I can't find that one link of 11 sessions,
> care to sit on the internet day after day looking for one little piece
> of evidence to prove you wrong AGAIN.
LOL You claim you quoted this source... now it would take you days to find
it?
LOL!!!!! This is fucking hilarious.
Keep spinning.
> Any one would conclude that the
> links I gave would be sufficient to prove what I said, 11 sessions to
> be true,
No, in fact they all prove what you said was a lie... it does not take "a
minimum of 11 sessions to clear up the problem" like you claimed.
>But since your a fucking lying ass sack of shit and a cretin,
> you'll just make up some more garbage because that is what you do
> best.
Yeah I just made up the difference between an average an a minimum.
> It gets old and boring to keep showing you what a truly dumbass cretin
> you are, so you get no more replies,
You keep saying this, and yet you're still here dancing...
.
ever unless you want to show the
> world how stupid you are and discuss brain science or something of
> that nature.
>
> I know you have been elected the whipping boy for the ss group of
> cheesy losers, I am sorry you have to take it out on others since your
> obvious posts show your a powerless loser who has to resort to lies to
> promote something that doesn't work and attack others because it makes
> you feel a little bit more superior, because your a total failure at
> life. Now for the famous words you've been waiting for, fuck you.
> *LOL*
>
Project much, "UnKaH"
essential-skills.com>?
Try harder.
>
> UnKaH
>
>
