> On Mar 14, 11:11 pm, "Odious"
cox.net.nospam> wrote:
>
> No, actually I have never seen him successful with women, he takks the
> talk, but just can't seem to walk the walk. Your analogy is stupid.
I seriously doubt that when you open your eyes you're able to see anything
other than the wall of Tom's colon.
However your pastime, as well as your continued willful ignorance, does
nothing to support your premise or to negate my refutation of it.
>>
>> Also I'm curious why you seem to think that an example of failure is
>> proof
>> that one can not ever succeed?
>> I do not recall anybody ever claiming Ross has a 100%% success rate with
>> every woman he approaches.
>> Do you think that when SHAQ misses a basket, that proves he can't score
>> any
>> points at all?
>> If Babe Ruth strikes out, does that prove he can't ever hit homeruns?
>>
>>> So again
>>> you attack me, care to point out that those statements are lies? Or
>>> BUSTED.
>
> deflection once again
You yet to explain how asking you for the specific claim you want me to
address is a deflection.
>>
>> What statements? You don't seem to be able to determine what statements
>> are
>> being made by whom.
>>
>>
>>
>>>> examples of Timmy vastly improved people skills from using the 3d
>>>> mind?
>>
>>> Funny, they have been addressed but as I have said time and time
>>> again, you just to fucking stoopid to get it, so you keep making
>>> dumbass claims like that. Besides dumbass, this is an entirely
>>> different thread.
>
> Sure I am much more receptive and open towards people, but you and
> your moron crew are not people, your morons and idiots and the only
> treatment you deserve is the trash I deal out to you.
> Nice trying once again to deflect from the thread and try to attack
> me, bottom line you suck.
Dehumanizing your those you choose to attack.... yet another textbook
redflag that your condion is far from "cured."
Why to bend over backwards to prove me correct....again.
>>
>> You've lied and said you did not use 3d mind on your social skills....
>> yet I
>> found a quote from you that shows you stating otherwise.
>> _____________________________________
>> "I was a combat veteran many years ago in a little country called Viet
>> Nam
>> and come down with severe PTSD ( Post Traumatic Stress Disorder ) which I
>> had for the next 33 years.
>>
>> I spent time, in the company of shrinks, therapists, NLP practitioners,
>> all
>> to no avail. Then I came across the 3-D Mind.
>>
>> I decided to give it a whirl and all it took was 4 minutes. 33 years of
>> PTSD
>> gone in 4 minutes.
>>
>> It was as if a 1,000 pounds of weight came off my shoulders, I am much
>> more
>> happier and much more open and receptive to people. 2005 is going to be a
>> kick ass year for me."
>>
>> -- Tim (monsterbaby at
essential-skills.com)
>> _______________________________________
>
> It succeeded but not towards idiots like you dipshit. Don't you just
> love it when the kettle calls the pot black,
When did I claim that 3d mind helped me improve my social skills by curing
my PTSD?
You do understand what the pot v kettle analogy is referring to right?
I've not made the claims you've made, nor do I behave as you behave.... so
what exactly is apt in your use of the analogy?
> for if my writing here is
> stated by you to be anti-social, then what does that say about you and
> your people skills, as usual and par for the course, like you they
> suck.
LOL!!!!!! I'm not the one attacking anybody who dares question Tom's
spam.... you are. I understand that you are ashamed of what a meat puppet
you are, but projecting your behavior on me won't help sooth your
self-loathing. Because your self-loathing is likely the only good judgment
you've ever made.
>>
>> So clearly these are you new and improved 3d mind cured people
>> skills.....
>> or 3d mind failed to make a change in your people skills.
>
> Sure I have in my social life,
What social life.... you openly admit you are here flaming Tom's cirics on
usenet because you have nothing better to do.
> but you think this ng is some kind of
> social gathering, as usual you error in judgment, you moronic asshole.
No I think you are who your words reflect... a bitter angry uneducated
useless social reject who vents his rage and hate on usenet in the service
of the man who supplies you with the keystone of your denial.
>>
>> You can no longer lie and whine that you did not use 3d mind to change
>> your
>> social skills.... because as anybody can read, you clearly admited you
>> did
>> use 3d mind to be more open and receptive to people.
>
> How many hundreds of posts did you have to wade through to once again
> make yourself look stupid.
>
Note you can't refute the facts of what you said.... and for your
information I didn't have to wade through anything.... just did a term
search in google.
Took a matter of seconds.... it's that easy to find examples of you
contradicting your own bullshit.
>>
>>>> Funny Timmy can't address Tom's claims and lies.... so he tries to
>>>> change
>>>> the subject to ross.
>>
>>>> reading links about ss and it's creator, if
>>
>>>>> you looking into ss as a way to get some dates or better, you may
>>>>> want
>>>>> to really read these links and see for yourself that ss is nothing
>>>>> more than hyped up bullshit.
>>
>>> Tee Hee, Tee Hee. Sure you can, free material right, care to point to
>>> the link moron.
>
> Ok, I suppose you think people won't bother to click the link, I did
> and it said 404 not found.wanna try again?
>
> So he is basically doing what Tom is doing
Do you understand the difference between an opt in mailing list and
broadcasted usenet spam?
Obviously not, and that's why Tom is failing so badly he needs to spam
usenet with bogus last second "deals" to try to sell seats athis seminars.
LOL!!!
> but is saying Tom doesn't
> know how to market.. Sheeezo peezo you guys are idiots.
No he doesn't..... which is why you still run anytime I ask for the info
tracking sales from links to his site orginating from his spam to usenet.
>>> 3D Mind guaranteed or your money back.
>
> I've seen some of the women you losers think is hot,
Note that since timtom can't refute the factthat Ross offers a money back
guarantee, all he can do is whine about the women that SS are getting....
yet did he not just whine that SSers never get laid and SS never works.
Odd how when he is defending Tom's lied about 3d mind, somehow the mere
existance of a gurantee is supposed to stand as proof positive tha 3d mind
wroks as spammed.... yet point out that Ross offeres a gurantee, and
suddenly it is meaningless.
LOL!!!
Keep spinning chimpy.
I've noticed that
> you guys are so hard up you'll sleep with skanks, look at ross's
> current girlfriend, he says is so hot, at best she is average, but
> wanna hear something really funny, as soon as she introduces him to
> her friends and they laugh and ask why she is dating someone's ugly
> grandfather, she's gone. You guys think you have some kind of magical
> power over women, when in fact your more deluded than Ray.
>
> Show me where it says that or am I just going to get another broken
> link.
That's on his main page.... LOL!!!!!
>>
>> As is speed seduction. "You Must Sleep With At Least 3 Hot Women Within
>> 90
>> Days Of Using My Home Study Course Or You Pay Nothing.I'll Refund Every
>> Penny!" - Ross
>
> The difference is you can learn crap for free or pay for value,
The fact that one has to pay sight unseen for tom;s crap, doesn;t give it
value.
It proves that Tom is hiding behind hype.
> clearly as ross has shown, ss is crap since he didn't even get a
> number.
Your inept excuses aside.... you still admit i am correct and someone has to
buy 3d mind... whereas they can easily learn the basics of SS for free to
see if it works or not.
>>
>> The difference is you can learn the basics of speed seduction for
>> free....
>> but you have to buy 3d mind.
>>
>>> The poor saps
>>> your marketing too, in order to get laid, they will try anything, yet
>>> the master and guru of ss failed miserably when the camera's were on.
>
> Dude once again the proof is in the pudding, and your pudding smells
> like bullshit.
Says the halfwit you admits he can;t figure out how to work the weblinks
that point to successes using SS.... and who also feels the need to attack
the successes that he just claimed men weren;t able to acheive using SS.
He whines that SS doesn;t work, and the women that it works on are skanks or
average. LOL!!!! Make up your mind....
>>
>> You seem to think that an example of a failure or even several failures,
>> somehow proves success is impossible. Rather like arguing the existence
>> of
>> jet crashes, proves that jets can't fly.
>>
>> Your whole premise is flawed and pointless.
>>
>>> why would any one want to give it serious consideration when the ss
>>> god couldn't even get a phone number.
>
> Oh ok, thats the reason, or buy the course and too many people won't
> send it back because they are too embarrassed, hoping like you, maybe,
> just maybe they will get laid.
You can make up whaever you want, but it won;t change the FACTS. The facts
are that the basics of SS are free to learn and try... so people can see
forthemselves if it works or not FOR FREE.
You can't deal with that.
>>
>> Simple, because not only can people learn the basics for free and try it
>> themselves, for free.... but also, if they do buy the corurse, it's
>> guaranteed.
>>
>>
>>
>
> You've yet to post a link to that material, so how can someone try
> something they can't get too?
You being too stupid to work a link, is not the same thing as a link not
being provided.
>
>>>> LOL!!!! See the funy thing is that anybody can try out the FREE
>>>> material
>>>> for themselves first... see if they like it and see if it works.
>>>> Nobody
>>>> is
>>>> required to buy anything... unlike 3d mind where apparently you have
>>>> to
>>>> buy
>>>> the product to even be allowed to ask questions about it.
>>
>>> Well dip shit, you have yet to prove that moronic claim.
>>
>> You are the one who, when asked questions about the 3d mind, whines and
>> refuses to answer because they don't know enough about the product..
>> Seems
>> to be pretty clear proof, since you do it in this very thread....
>>
>> ____________________________
>> On Mar 13, 11:33 pm, "Odious"
cox.net.nospam> wrote:
>>
>> You can't make that claim because you know zero about the 3D Mind.
>> I've asked you over and over again what is the first step in the 3D
>> Mind, you have not answered because you don't know, so if you
>> don't know what the 3D Mind is or is about, you can not make those
>> claims.
>> ____________________________
>>
>>
>>>
> Your a pathetic moron, if the 3D mind was built on the same thing, it
> wouldn't work either.
You continue to whine that 3d mind is not built on things like rapport and
anchoring and eliciting states... yet someone who attended a 3d mind
training seminar said otherwise.
But feel free to prove your claim that 3d mind is built of material other
than components found in NLP and CBT.
> You have no idea how it works so you grasp at
> straws hoping to hit a mark, you are so far off your not even wrong.
> If your dumbass master knew anything about the 3D mind, he would have
> told you but he is almost as clueless as you are. here you are making
> claims about the 3D Mind and it's components and your not even close.
Again your argument boils down to whining that I do not know the differences
between 3d mind and the similar applications in NLP and CBT.... yet whenever
I ask what this massive functional difference is.... YOU CAN'T ANSWER!
Prove me wrong.... tell me right now what this amazing functional change is
between anchoring in NLP and anchoring i9n 3d mind.... that is so amazing it
makes anchoring that you claim never works in NLP, suddenly always work in
3d mind.
Go ahead.....
> See if you were smart, which your not, you would have ordered the 3D
> Mind,
BZZZZZZZZT WRONG. There is nothing smart about buying crap Tm has
openly and repeatedly lied about.
But thanks for again proving me right.... that all this garbage you and tom
post here, is about trying to get me, and others in these groups, to buy
Tom's crap.
