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Author: dmandman Date: Oct 31, 2007 00:59
Nope, it does not. To illustrate, here is an example from Saturday
night:
I was trying to encourage a friend to approach these two girls
dancing, when he eventually agreed I went for one of them... had to
push through the group of guys surrounding them, I'm about to start
talking...
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Oct 31, 2007 04:52
> Nope, it does not.
Of course it does. Now, if you're the type who's young, healthy, well-off
financially, then it won't matter what technique you use because she's into
your assets rather than any "skills." Or, to put it another way, show me
your "game" when you turn forty.
>To illustrate, here is an example from Saturday
> night:
>
> I was trying to encourage a friend to approach these two girls
> dancing,
To get to this point, one has to usually pay a cover charge, pluc costs of
getting to and from whatever club, PLUS the time he could have spent
working. A guru can do this, but few others can.
Then of course there is club lighting.
>when he eventually agreed I went for one of them... had to
> push through the group of guys surrounding them,
Thus risking nightclub violence. Is getting the lay-report worth it? Maybe
to a guru who needs testimonials and is willing to risk the lives of his
students to get them.
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Author: ZFORCEZFORCE Date: Oct 31, 2007 05:00
"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:SZGdna8IjcoD8bXanZ2dnUVZ_rKtnZ2d@pghconnect.com...>> Nope, it does not.
>
> Of course it does.
Says the BUSINESS MAN who called SECURITY on the ONLY customer he's EVER had
on USENET.
Oh you should have seen the responses Google, Yahoo and Microsoft came back
with on that post.
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Author: Seeker1Seeker1 Date: Oct 31, 2007 05:46
I personally have no evidence that the original poster - "dman" - did
any of the things stated, or if events occurred in the way he claims.
But, Mr Parker, *your* criticisms are of two types:
1: the simply fatuous
2: "he didn't use *my* methods, therefore he can't succeed"
For example, "dman" says:
>> I was trying to encourage a friend to approach these
>> two girls dancing,
Your fatuous critique is:
> To get to this point, one has to usually pay a cover charge,
> pluc costs of getting to and from whatever club,
> PLUS the time he could have spent working.
> A guru can do this, but few others can.
Are you serious ?
You are claiming that no men are found in clubs ?
That only "seduction gurus" can afford to go to a club ?
Do you have *any* experience at all of urban night life in the Western
world in the early 21st Century ?
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Date: Oct 31, 2007 06:10
Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot wrote:
>> Nope, it does not.
>
> Of course it does. Now, if you're the type who's young, healthy, well-off
> financially, then it won't matter what technique you use because she's into
> your assets rather than any "skills." Or, to put it another way, show me
> your "game" when you turn forty.
Say, aren't you 40, Gordon? How's the living with mum while being
unemployed and filing a shitload of meritless lolsuits game going for
you?
>>To illustrate, here is an example from Saturday
>> night:
>>
>> I was trying to encourage a friend to approach these two girls
>> dancing,
>
> To get to this point, one has to usually pay a cover charge, pluc costs of
> getting to and from whatever club, PLUS the time he could have spent
> working. A guru can do this, but few others can.
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Oct 31, 2007 07:36
>> Of course it does. Now, if you're the type who's young, healthy,
>> well-off
>> financially, then it won't matter what technique you use because she's
>> into your assets rather than any "skills." Or, to put it another way,
>> show me
>> your "game" when you turn forty.
>>
> I'm way over 40 idiot,
fake-tough-guy tone of voice noted.
>and I have a very active and happy sex life.
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Author: corkycorky Date: Oct 31, 2007 11:50
"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:g4udnX49GLi4DrXanZ2dnUVZ_sOrnZ2d@pghconnect.com...>>> Of course it does. Now, if you're the type who's young, healthy,
>>> well-off
>>> financially, then it won't matter what technique you use because she's
>>> into your assets rather than any "skills." Or, to put it another way,
>>> show me
>>> your "game" when you turn forty.
>>>
>> I'm way over 40 idiot,
>
> fake-tough-guy tone of voice noted.
From the guy who thinks his customers are stalking him.
>
>>and I have a very active and happy sex life.
>
> In other posts, he's said he earns a lot of money. One would expect he'd
> convert that cash into some sex, but that's not "game." That's cash.
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Author: AlexAlex Date: Oct 31, 2007 14:13
in article SZGdna8IjcoD8bXanZ2dnUVZ_rKtnZ2d@ pghconnect.com, Ray Gordon,
creator of the "pivot" at ray@ cybersheet.com wrote on 10/31/07 7:52 AM:
>> Nope, it does not.
>
> Of course it does. Now, if you're the type who's young, healthy, well-off
> financially, then it won't matter what technique you use because she's into
> your assets rather than any "skills." Or, to put it another way, show me
> your "game" when you turn forty.
Anytime you want to come out with me (41 years old) let me know.
I won't even charge you for the lesson.
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Author: ashenthornashenthorn Date: Oct 31, 2007 14:56
On Oct 31, 7:52 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:>> Nope, it does not.
>
> Of course it does.
Not in a nightclub. Everyone is trying to pick everyone else up.
That's the whole point of a nightclub.
>Now, if you're the type who's young, healthy, well-off
> financially, then it won't matter what technique you use because she's into
> your assets rather than any "skills." Or, to put it another way, show me
> your "game" when you turn forty.
Looks/style are dispropotionately important in a nightclub setting.
Doesn't mean to say that a guy who doesn't look good can't be
successful.
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Oct 31, 2007 15:22
>>> Nope, it does not.
>>
>> Of course it does.
>
> Not in a nightclub. Everyone is trying to pick everyone else up.
> That's the whole point of a nightclub.
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