I'm a 25 year old male living in Los Angeles. I've been told that I
possess a number of qualities that women find attractive: good looks,
intelligence, wit, subtle authoritative demeanor, a strong college
education, promising job, etc. I will admit, however, that when it
comes to women, I lack confidence. I think if I had to attribute that
to something, it would be my strict Catholic upbringing (I attended an
all boy's grade school which severely limited my exposure to the
opposite sex growing up).

I recently traveled to Vegas with a number of friends two weekends ago.
We decided to check out the nightclub Jet in the Mirage on Friday
night. In my best peacocking attempt, I opted to wear a grey...

Much as I like to be optimistic, I think that if you contact her again you run
a real risk of being reported to the police for harassment/stalking,
irrespective of your intentions. She has told you to stop and as I understand
it, in the eyes of the law you must respect her wishes.
You came across needy and it scared her away. Repeatedly appologising will only
make it look worse and lower your self esteem even further. It's time to learn
from that mistake, realise that this proved that you can get hot women and move
onto the next one.

Good luck, hope to hear a more sucessful field report next time.
Varjak

Varjak wrote:

I definitely hear what you are saying, and I can see how she could
interpret another call in that manner, but my phone calls were made
consecutively within a 2 minute timeframe -- it was pretty apparent
that I was just completely wasted -- and I didn't leave her any nasty
drunken messages. I wasn't planning on apologizing again if I did
reach out to her -- I wanted to just say hello, pretend like nothing
happened, see how she would react, and take it from there.

Michael.J.Knudsen@gmail.com wrote:

She has unresolved BF issues, and in this particular instance you can only
make it worse. Do NOT contact her again, when she gets ready she will
contact you. In the meantime, try and stay on the edge of her circle of
friends, and if one or more of her GFs make themselves available, so much
the better. Do NOT ask about her, and if asked just say that she has chosen
to deal with her former BF and you respect her decision.

You WILL get a second shot at her. Make sure you are ready for it when it
comes, and don't be too quick to bite the offered apple. After all, she did
dump you for the old BF right? Have fun with her friends, stay in sight,
always have an attractive woman in tow and DO NOT CALL HER. Women can't
stand that, be ready when it comes.

Remember this, if the relationship with the BF was good, they wouldn't have
broken up. It's not going to get better between them, be patient.

And......Sarge Sarge Sarge.....
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No, she has SLUT issues.

Hotties fuck multiple guys these days, and collisions between the men are
inevitable.

This is what happens when people stop marrying. Women like this would have
been off the market and out of the nightlife forty years ago. Now it's a
totally different dynamic where we can more or less have whatever we want,
but not necessarily keep it. A guy has to learn to play by those rules.

Note that if he didn't chase her, she'd be chasing him.

--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.

A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "AFCs pay my rent."

Thanks for staying in character Gordon, I would have been shocked if you had
failed to show your ass when someone posts needing help.

"Ray Gordon, creator of the "flaming asshole"" cybersheet.com> wrote in
message news:jbWdna4sk9ObtdjYnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@pghconnect.com...

Posts like this are just why people are so anxious to buy your "books". As
a salesman, you make a good midwife.

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:15:32 -0500, "Ray Gordon, creator of the
\"pivot\"" cybersheet.com> wrote:

How about
" A seduction guru wantabe who tells you that looks, money or status
is not game is not teaching you "anything," but how to be an AFC. He
uses some losers' money to imprersonate women, try and seduce other
men and laughs that "AFCs pay for my kooky lawsoots."
?

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