Ray Gordon, creator of lies and deceit wrote:

That is false. And everything he posts based on this deceit will also
therefore be incorrect going forward.

And he's doing it deliberately, he knows he's 2-0-2 at this point using
4 picks and not 2 picks leaving him 96 picks and not 98 like he
insists.

FRAUD!

There's nothing that says pushes have to count. A push is a NO-PLAY. While
it can be counted as a tie, it can also not be counted. Either way is
correct.

2-0-2 and 3-1 are exactly the same +2.0 units using either system. For my
"100 picks" I am not counting pushes.

Krus T. Olfard wrote:

"HC" aol.com> wrote in
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In article <-96dnZK1NOrYTSzYnZ2dnUVZ_u6rnZ2d@pghconnect.com>,
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" cybersheet.com> wrote:

It still seems very shaky. Like having to rationalize what the meaning
of "is" is.

According to many, If you have to engage in that kind of
rationalization, you've already lost.

Ray Gordon, creator of lies and deceit wrote:

A selection on a game is made, it is a selection on a game.

Parker said he was going to produce 60 wins in 100 selections.

There has been NO ARGUMENT presented, right or wrong, it hasn't even
been presented, as to why a push shouldn't count as one of his picks.

Of course they count, he said "60 wins in 100 picks."

If a pick pushed, it counts as one of the 100 picks. Why shouldn't it?

So, he made 3 picks, and then made a 4th pick. Who the picks are on is
IRRELEVANT.

His record is not at that time 2-0 but rather 2-0-2.

The units are the same, but he used up two more picks.

As this progresses, lets say when he's down to 50 picks, and he posts
one play and he pushes, his unit total remains the same but its another
notch off the 100 picks that he says hes going to produce 60 wins
with.

"100 picks, 60 wins."

And yet ANOTHER error in "Ray Gordon's" logic. Thank you Brian.

For those of you in the other groups, Brian is without question an
"expert" onteh science/art of handicapping.

He is the "Lee Darrow" of RGS.

And he removed ASF and AH out of respect, *I'M* the one that put ASF
and AH back into the thread.

Ray Gordon, creator of lies and deceit, wrote:

2-0-2 equals +2.00 units.

3-1 = +1.9 units.

When the game wins, you get +1.00 unit.

When the game loses you get -1.10 units.

Simple math.

2-0-2 is NOT "exactly the same" as 3-1. Not in a million years, using
ANY twists of logic.

Not gray, but BLACK AND WHITE.

Not the same.

That's because he's a FRAUD.

A pick is a pick. When you make a pick you tie up bankroll. It is
relevant to the 100 picks that he's claiming he'll get 60 wins out of.

An Old Friend wrote:

It's not even shakey, it's flat out WRONG!

2-0-2 means 4 picks, 2 wins, and 2 pushes. That's scored as +2.00 units
for the winners, and 0.00 units for the two ties.

So a record of 2-0-2 for documentatin purposes equals a net win of 2.00
units.

3-1 means 4 picks, 3 wins, 1 loss. That's scored as +3.0 units for the
3 wins, and -1.10 units for the one loss for a net of 1.90 units.

An Old Friend friend.com.invalid> wrote in
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