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Author: HCHC Date: Aug 31, 2007 14:48
Who's "we"?
Worldwide Network of Horse Handicappers?
The mere thought of *you* actually working with anybody makes me
laugh.
I don't think you can name one person that can stand being in the same
room with you, let alone work with you, and that includes your mommy.
If you are so good at picking winners why at almost FORTY years of age
do you still live in a low rent apartment with your mother?
And really curious, with all this money you win at the track, have you
paid your victims their court costs yet?
On Aug 31, 5:39?pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the world of shit in which
he lives" cybershit.com> wrote:
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Aug 31, 2007 17:55
Crapper's a little uneduacated when it comes to horse racing.
For example, Len Ragozin, who produces the most popular speed figure sheets
in America, doesn't bet himself. He doesn't have to. If his sheets win,
his clients win and buy more sheets. They've won for decades, and he built
his operation on that winning.
Second, there's a big problem in racing with regard to rebates, which are
not available to all bettors and are found mostly offshore. A rebate player
gets anywhere from 7-18 percent back on every dollar he bets, which is cut
from the OTB's profit in return for his business. I don't play with a
rebate, so I'd be at a disadvantage. By selling my sheets to rebate
players, I'm getting the benefit of rebates without the hassle of securing
them.
Even those who win at the track won't win fast enough to keep a large
bankroll, as their living expenses would eat up a lot of their profits. If
a bad streak hits, they can get sacred, and it's a volatile way of life.
Doing the handicapping work for people who don't mind that volatility is
valuable to them since they don't have to spend hours handicapping, and to
me, since I get paid to analyze horse races.
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Author: HCHC Date: Aug 31, 2007 18:17
On Aug 31, 8:55?pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:
> Crapper's a little uneduacated when it comes to horse racing.
A little?
I told you yesterday I've been to the track less times in my life than
I have fingers. Why are you SPAMMING RGS with your horseshit anyway?
>
> For example, Len Ragozin, who produces the most popular speed figure sheets
> in America, doesn't bet himself. He doesn't have to. If his sheets win,
> his clients win and buy more sheets. They've won for decades, and he built
> his operation on that winning.
>
But *you* haven't. I bet all your horsey people knowallabout him and
his success . . . all anybody knows about you is that you're forty
years old and still live with your mother.
And that you jumped for joy when the terrorists hit the US.
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Aug 31, 2007 21:13
>
> Yeah, you could get a job and leave your mother
> alone.
You could leave my family alone before you wind up behind bars.
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Author: HCHC Date: Aug 31, 2007 21:23
g Wayne,
It looks like you know Mr. Parker, I guess from one of the groups he
cross posted to. I added in ASF because I thought the nice people
there would be interested in hearing that Parker has been issued a
challenge by a member of a newsgroup that probably does better than
Parker in an area Parker claims expertise. I know I certainy was.
Would you mind briefly outlining what the challenge is/was? I saw
you refer to it as a 100k challenge. Also, if you wouldn't mind
educating me just a bit . . . is "PAP" an acronym for something that
is well known in the horse industry, or is that just something Parker
made up himself? Is "PAP" inspired by something maybe that somebody
else has already been credited with? Thanks.
On Aug 31, 11:07?pm, "g Wayne" yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 00:55:15 UTC, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
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> cybersheet.com> wrote:
>> Crapper's a little uneduacated when...
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Author: HCHC Date: Aug 31, 2007 21:26
On Sep 1, 12:13?am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:
>> Yeah, you could get a job and leave your mother
>
>> alone.
>
> You could leave my family alone before you wind up behind bars.
>
Telling you that you could get a job and leave your mother alone is
going to turn me into a bartender?
And how am I not leaving your family alone? Are you sitting on mommy's
lap while she reads this to you?
Hi Penny! :-)
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Aug 31, 2007 21:43
>> You could leave my family alone before you wind up behind bars.
>>
>
> Telling you that you could get a job and leave your mother alone is
> going to turn me into a bartender?
>
> And how am I not leaving your family alone?
>
>Are you sitting on mommy's
> lap while she reads this to you?
I'll response to HC and a few others here through the appropriate legal
channels. He's ignored warnings to stop defaming me and stop cyberstalking
me, thus leaving me no other alternative.
Every time he wastes his energy here, he'll wind up making himself look
worse and worse.
--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
http://www.cybersheet.com/seduction.html
Limit of TEN students. Act now!
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Date: Aug 31, 2007 21:54
Ray moron, who claims he was formerly Jesus CHrist, wrote:
>>Are you sitting on mommy's
>>lap while she reads this to you?
>
>
> I'll response to HC and a few others here through the appropriate legal
> channels. He's ignored warnings to stop defaming me and stop cyberstalking
> me, thus leaving me no other alternative.
That's funny...one CAN'T POSSIBLY defame the
aggregious, VILE, a-hole who did in fact
author each of the following statements:
"May those who died today [9/11] ROT in the hell THEY DESERVE."
"I am expressing my lack of sympathy for the loss
of a bunch of SELF-CENTERED, ASSHOLE New Yorkers"
"No significant loss of life in those towers.
NOT A SINGLE ONE!"
"Pretty damn good day at the office if you ask me,
especially since I'm not the one who hijacked the planes."
"NO ONE of *any* significance died in that blast."
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Author: Thom E. GeigerThom E. Geiger Date: Aug 31, 2007 22:20
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 00:13:53 -0400, "Ray Gordon, creator of the
\"pivot\"" cybersheet.com> wrote:
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>> Yeah, you could get a job and leave your mother
>> alone.
>
>You could leave my family alone before you wind up behind bars.
You still illegally passing yourself off as your mother's legal
representative, in flagrant violation of Pennsylvania's Unlicensed
Practice of Law statutes? Are you, Gordon Roy Parker? You've admitted
opening, reading and intercepting her mail, screening her telephone
calls and I see you're still attempting to prevent people from
comunicating with her. Careful, Gordon Roy Parker. Be very very
careful.
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Sep 1, 2007 05:58
>> Crapper's a little uneduacated when it comes to horse racing.
>
> Look who's talking. A shut in that doesn't even go to OTB much less the
> track.
>> For example, Len Ragozin, who produces the most popular speed figure
>> sheets in America, doesn't bet himself. He doesn't have to. If his
>> sheets win,
>> his clients win and buy more sheets. They've won for decades, and he
>> built his operation on that winning.
>
> In my opinion, anyone that works out a system that is actually producing
> more winners than losers, and does not bet themselves based on that system
> is a fool.
Hardly. Information providers focus on one task -- compiling information --
while gamblers use that information. Databases have an intrinsic value due
to the time they take to construct.
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