Hi,

This is not a joke or spam!

Just looking for tips or sources of info on picking up gay men. Yes, I'm a
guy!

If you're not into that or are offended- my apologies, no need to flame.

Thanks

Seeker

Many "seduction gurus" are actually closeted homosexuals, as their clients
tend to be men who are desperate for emotional connections, and who did
poorly with women.

Becoming a "wingman" to a straight guy is also a good way to slip "under the
radar." (this is why straight PUAs work alone).

--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru

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http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
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The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From

Click HERE: for the ORIGINAL pivot chapter:
http://www.cybersheet.com/pivot.pdf

On Apr 22, 6:30 pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:

hahaha, when I saw Ray's name next to this thread for half a second I
thought he had started it

nope, instead he is first person to reply to it

On Apr 21, 10:52 pm, justa...@comic.com wrote:

In general, it will depend on which gender role you identify with and
which of the subcultures you are in. Other than those things that are
specifically tailored to the female psychology as a matter of biology
and are motivational re mate selection, seduction is pretty much a
matter of interpersonal skills, social awareness and competence.

On Apr 21, 11:30 pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:

That could certainly describe you, either as a 'guru' or as a client.

By the way, that is a nice piece of totally non sequitor reasoning
there. Nothing connects with anything. Typical.

Ray, this is the type of distorted reasoning that gets your lawsuits
shit canned. If you care to expand on this, I'm sure the
entertainment value will be appreciated immensely.

On Apr 21, 10:52 pm, justa...@comic.com wrote:

Of course it's a joke. Gays go to bathhouses, hiway rest areas to
stick their wieners through glory holes and tap their feet under
public restroom stalls to signal for sex. They're hardly a
discriminating bunch. That's fo' sho'.

In article pghconnect.com>,
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" cybersheet.com> wrote:

Giving advice on picking up gay men at 2:30am? Just 38 minutes after
the question was posted? The previous poster seems quite eager to rush
in and be the first (and thus likely be considered the most important
authority) on the subject being asked.

in article QdWdnYZHlK2EG5DVnZ2dnUVZ_tWtnZ2d@pghconnect.com, Ray Gordon,
creator of the "pivot" at ray@cybersheet.com wrote on 4/22/08 2:30 AM:

You are not a guru, fr00t l00p.

How's that closet? Can you see past the sweaters yet?

He didn't ask how to "pick up" a straight man, fr00t l00p.

in article
98fa4e15-8ac9-4159-beee-bf113b0eb384@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com, dman at
dman@mytrashmail.com wrote on 4/22/08 3:48 AM:

Hi Vance,

Thanks for offering the ONLY serious answer! :-)

It seems in my brief reading that most of the seduction techniques relate to
biology (reproducing the species) i.e. a woman is attracted to someone
that'll produce viable offspring, or is a good provider. I took "The
Dominate Male Test" and did quite well, but since I'm not getting good
results, I though maybe different approaches would work better. Maybe what
intices a woman to mate is different than what entices a gay man?

As some of the literature suggests, guys seem to be more visually cued in,
so I'm wondering how to overcome my lack of a hot body to attract guys I
find attractive, usually younger and cuter than I am. Hypocritical, I know!

And contrary to one respondent's belief, gays aren't all sluts that will
sleep with anyone! I think that's perhaps just a 'straight' guy's wishful
thinking!! ;-)

Thanks again! :-)

Justin

Justaguy@comic.com