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Re: ANDREW NEWTON THE MAN WHO TAUGHT PAUL McKENNA?         

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Author: Vance
Date: Mar 5, 2008 10:40

Your credibility ranks right down there with our local newsloon,
Gordon Roy Parker, aka Ray Gordon. You also seem to suffer from
either significant emotional or psychological problems as evidenced by
your history of postings, promotions and personal conduct at large and
in private, another characteristic you share with Mr. Parker.
Regarding hypnosis, there is one significant difference, you know much
more than Mr. Parker.

On Mar 5, 8:08 am, sh...@hypnotorious.com wrote:
> Hello There,
>
> I have been forwarded messages from the "Hypnotherapist Register"
> Yahoo Newsgroup involving a thread where my names of Alex Smith and
> previous name of Jonathan Royle have appeared.
>
> Further the name of ANDREW NEWTON has been involved in these
> discussion's and also one of the people to comment was Terrence Watts
> and thats why I am posting all this here.
>
> As I presume the email I sent to the "hypnotherapist register" group
> will never appear, I am emailing you this so that
>
> A) You have a more genuine insight into things and also so that b) You
> might be so kind as to post the below on my behalf to the group which
> then truly will help to set the record straight.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Dr. Jonathan Royle -www.hypnotherapycourse.net
>
> PS: I am sorry for the length of this posting, but this is necessary
> so that you can see the EVIDENCE which illustrates the TRUTH.
>
> THIS WAS FIRST MESSAGE TO HYPNOTORIOUS GROUP
>
> Below is a copy and paste of an email I have just sent to the
> Hypnotherapy Register list, I post it here as it may not get approved
> there by the moderator and I feel the record should be set straight
> on a few things....
>
> Oh and the induction (which Tom Bolton taught delegates as detailed
> below) is briefly as follows:
>
> 01) He got a person to sit in a chair, hands upturned on their lap,
> feet so they are lifted up roughly at 45%% in air off the ground
> (ankels on ground) and had them tilt there head back.
>
> 02) They were told to close their eye's, breathe in deeply etc and
> then Tom rotated their head to the side and down onto their chest.
>
> 03) He then touched their shoulders lightly and told them to relax
> and slump their shoulders forward.
>
> 04) Next he told them to let there body go limp and loose leaning
> forward like a banana and as if their spine had gone floppy like
> rubber.
>
> 05) He then moved their hands off their lap so they were no longer
> upturned and so it helped move them into a fetal type position - as
> this occured his
> own shoulder gently helped push against the back of volunteers
> shoulder thus encouraging them
> to slump forward in their chair..
>
> 06) He then told them to relax feet flat onto ground.
>
> 07) they were then told to open their eyes and on a scale of 1 to 10
> it was found they felt much more relaxed than when they did the scale
> of 1 to 10 to start with and this was the convincer prior to going
> through the procedure again which took around 60 seconds and placed
> the volunteer back into a profound state of hypnosis.
>
> Indeed none of the components of the above are at all original,
> however it was TOM BOLTON'S (as I understand) GENIUS to combine all
> of the above elements (I may have the order slightly wrong but the
> principle is same) in otherwords as witnessed by me and others
> including Andrew Newton, This was and is Tom Boltons creation..
>
> All will make sense when you read on, oh and for the record I
> demonstrated this induction (as detailed above) in great detail
> CREDITING its creator TOM BOLTON at my Torquay Seminar..
>
> CHEER'S TOM - YOUR A GENUIS!
>
> Hello There,
>
> it's Alex Smith here (formerly Jonathan Royle) - as no doubt you may
> now know I have been contacted by Kevin Hogan and am
> awaiting a reply, but have removed any mention of him from my MySpace
> blog as it is possible I may have got confused and mixed him up
>
> with another Marketeer of Hypnosis style products who is involved in
> the same "masters of passive income" project as me....
>
> Anyhow I notice that Terrence Watts seems to want to stick his nose
> in and feel that a few facts should be made clear as follows:
>
> DETAILS REGARDING TERRENCE WATTS,
>
> Oh and with the greatest of respect and for information only regards
> APHP,..
>
> The Association of Professional Hypnotherapists and Parapsychologists
> (APHP) was set up by a one Brian Howard of Warrington around 1989 ish
> long before Terrence Watts ever used those letters..
>
> Further I was granted permission by Brian Howard to use these letters
> (APHP) and have done so for many years since around 1993 when I made
> (with Brians Permission) the change to Association of Professional
> Hypnotherapists and Psychotherapists (still APHP) which as I
> understand it is long before Terrence Watts did.
>
> Further We have on file details of an order made by Terrence Watts of
> Essex around the mid 90's for my mail order hypnotherapy training
> course which contained mention of APHP for which I was given
> permission by Brian Howard.
>
> Records show that only after purchasing this course from Prospect
> House Publishing did Terrence Watts register the trademark on APHP.
>
> Therefore as the Trademark laws state I technically had/have legal
> grounds to have his trademark removed as I can prove longterm useage
> of APHP by both me and Brian Howard long before Terrence registered
> it and in the purpose of supplying hypnotherapy training and support,
> however I am not that petty.
>
> Despite the above facts Terrence Watts once had the audacity to
> threaten me with legal action and denied (despite the proof on file)
> that he had ever ordered anything from me (despite the fact it was
> paid for by him and sent to his address in Essex.)
>
> I mention this only so that you are aware things are not always what
> they seem.
>
> Oh and regards ANDREW NEWTON (hypnoman.com)
>
> Yes I did promote his first ever UK Hypnosis Two Day Training seminar
> in Manchester and also another event in Birmingham...
>
> Yes I have since fallen out with him, due to his stabbing me in the
> back and actions of spreading untrue rumours about me...
>
> He has also made INCORRECT statements about me in his book "All In
> The Mind" - for example I have never been inside Wakefield
>
> Prison and have never sent a "sex hypnosis tape" to Channel 5,
> perhaps he should have done his research right?
>
> Further in his book "All in The Mind" and also on his "Rapid
> Induction" DVD he describes what he calls The Andrew Newton
>
> Induction, which in truth I believe is an induction which was devised
> by Tom Bolton the creator of Freeway-Cer, it certainly bears an
>
> extremely uncanny resemblence - lol..
>
> Indeed Andrew Newton was present (along with me) at a Freeway-Cer
> event in Birmingham and witnessed Tom Bolton
>
> present and exaplin this inudction long before (several years)
> writing or releasing his book and making the dvd which he
>
> now markets and claims to be his own innovation.
>
> The weekend just gone I demonstrated Tom Boltons induction to my
> delegates at my Torquay seminar and present
>
> at the event were people who were also at the Tom Bolton course
> several years ago in Birmingham who witnessed
>
> Andrew Newton being there as he witnessed Tom demonstrate and explain
> the components which are now being
>
> claimed as "The Andrew Newton Induction"
>
> Further one of these people at my Torquay event (along with several
> other people with whom I still am in contact) who were
>
> present at The Birmingham event witnessed Andrew Newton admitting
> whilst slightly under the influence of alchohol that he had in
>
> the past attemped to hire the services of someone to have me
> seriously "done over".
>
> Indeed I am led to understand that the only reason this did not occur
> is because the person he approached turned out to
>
> be the son of one of my dads friends from his school days hence such
> action was avoided!
>
> You may also be interested to learn that the video filmed in Wales
> which Newton claims (in his book All In The Mind) was an experiment
> in how
>
> easy it would be to get people to "pretend" to be under hypnosis was
> in fact a serious (but failed) attempt by Newton to film Street
> Hypnosis.
>
> The truth is (and I have video evidence on file) that Newton was
> unable to hypnotise anyone rapidly or indeed at all on the street and
> as such
>
> I had to do the suggestibilty tests and get the people to be
> complient before we filmed the bits with Newton!
>
> Whats more on another occasion of another Birmingham seminar Newton
> (again having had a little to drink) ended up appearing on
>
> Kerrang Radio after offering to be hypnotised by me, which I did and
> I have photos, audio recording and video evidence to prove that
> Newton
>
> was a very reactive and comical hypnosis subject... yes I hypnotised
> the so called man who taught Paul Mckenna on Kerrange Radio
>
> on Tim Shaws Asylum show and this was witnessed by many people who I
> am still in contact with.
>
> Oh and before Newton see's this and points out that I detailed his
> onstage opening patter script in one of my books, I have witnesses
>
> (again from the Birmingham Seminar) who can confirm that Newton gave
> me permission to print this on condition that he was credited with
>
> creating it, which indeed I did credit him! - Shame he did not credit
> Tom Bolton with his induction!
>
> Oh and as a matter of interest since reading his book "All In The
> Mind" numerous people have contacted me and stated that in their
>
> opinion and observation much of the premise and some of the contents
> of Newtons book are clearly based on my "Theres No Such Thing
>
> As Hypnosis" DVDS, which is quite ironic given that after his first
> BORING Manchester Seminar (which got many complaints including one
>
> person walking out and another having to be refunded) I gave Newton a
> set of these DVDS to give him an idea of how to run a seminar
>
> properly and to illustrate what sort of content would actually
> interest delegates, make of that what you will.
>
> Its also strange that for years I have stated that "There's no such
> thing as hypnosis - in fact there is only suggestion" and recently
> Newton
>
> has taken to using this phrase in his book and other places!
>
> I could go on and on, but I don't want to be as petty as Newton who
> many of my colleagues (after reading Newtons book) have
>
> stated comes across as a deeply disturbed indivdual with a scary and
> twisted fascination for slagging of Paul Mckenna and well
>
> slagging off everyone to be honest, (as those who have read his book
> will testify).
>
> Sadly there are numerous errors, inaccuracies in Newtons book and it
> is clear to anyone who knows the truth that
>
> several alledged "facts" have clearly not been researched correctly
> before publication.
>
> For the record I am publishing this here only to set the record
> straight on a few things and in the hope that
>
> anyone wishing to learn the induction Newton claims as his own will
> actually choose to learn from an AUTHORISED source
>
> by way of contacting me on jonat...@royle2898.fsnet.co.uk as I shall
> soon be negotiating with Tom Bolton to release my audio,
>
> video and written training of this excellent method.
>
> With respect
>
> Dr. Alexander Smith (Jonathan Royle)www.myspace.com/magicalguru
>
> THIS IS A REPLY TO IT BY ANTHONY JACQUIN
>
> I did some training with Andrew Newton a few years ago. He
> demonstrated the induction you describe then and referred to it as the
> Jacobson Induction or technique. Jacobson was of course the man that
> coined the term 'progressive relaxation' back in the 1920's.
>
> Anthony
> Reality is Plastic: Impromptu Hypnosis - OUT NOWhttp://www.anthonyjacquin.com/products.html
>
> THIS IS ANOTHER REPLY FROM ME TO THE GROUP
>
> Hi As you can see at this web link:
>
> http://www.hypnotherapycourse.net/proddetail.php?prod=SHC4
>
> I have been teaching the "Jacobsens" facing forward and from behind
> inductions on DVD for several years now!
>
> I am aware of what Newton was teaching under this name and indeed have
> video footage on file of him doing so at a seminar which I promoted
> for
> him when he first started doing events, however there are subtle
> diffrences in what he teaches now and what it was then and these
> differences are most defintiely (in my opinion) those Newton would
> have
> witnessed Tom Bolton using as he demonstrated his method and style of
> this induction.
>
> Either way it further illustrates that the statement in Newtons book
> that he originated this induction is rubbish,
>
> Indeed his embryo version (much improved after seeing Tom Bolton) was
> attributed to having seen Peter Casson use it many times, this he
> stated during the seminar which I promoted and which we filmed and
> have
> on file as evidence.
>
> Its ironic that Newton slags Mckenna off for "stealing" his act in his
> book and then gos on to claim others works as his own.
>
> Buy from the originator and not the imitator, or at least from those
> who credit their sources as I always do and indeed Tom Bolton always
> has and always will.
>
> Cheers
> Alex
>
> THIS IS REPLY FROM ANTHONY JACQUIN
>
> One subtlety I really liked in the version I saw was as you lean
> forward to turn their hands you nudge their shoulder with your chest
> encouraging them to slump forward.
>
> Anthony
>
> THIS REPLY IS FROM TOM BOLTON & BEVERLEY ANDERSON
>
> Hi Everyone
>
> It seems that Andrew has improved his style after observing just one
> or two
> procedures that we used at our first special fast track one day
> FREEWAY-CER
> seminar in 2004 which he attended and maybe milking some parts of
> them.
> However we ourselves have no direct evidence of this. He did ask us at
> the
> seminar in 2004 could he use the CALM Routine and demonstrate it and
> we told
> him that he, like anyone else we teach, can use it to benefit others.
> However its unlikely that he would gain anything from stealing
> anything, and
> we are not sure he did so we have no worries about this matter.
> It would also probably benefit him more if he had attributed anything
> he
> adapted to us because in that way it would then benefit others.
>
> A master once told me that the purity and profundity of a technique is
> only
> as powerful as the empowerment through love- the gift given to it by
> its
> originator and that is why in the East there is much emphasis on
> lineage
> attribution and the power that is inherited by those who don't forget
> to do
> this. So people who copy others without proper training, permission of
> use, and without attribution to the originator can mimic or model the
> surface level/s of a technique, which although in the case of
> inductions,
> can often be effective for getting people relaxed and into trance like
> states, fails to give the degree of inner peace or extended healing
> that
> is achievable when observing the respect of attribution to the teacher/
> s.
>
> I and Bev use many secret healing procedures in our work not just one
> induction. In 1998 our first book was published 'Vibrations for Health
> and
> Happiness'. We were invited by Waterstones to conduct workshops in
> Liverpool, Birkenhead and Wrexham Bookstores and we used some of the
> Ancient
> techniques trance induction and other silent procedures and those who
> attended and who we have met since are still talking about the healing
> they
> experiences. You see its not the outer technique that matters its
> something extra that we add that make things magical and as yet much
> of the
> covert secrets are still with us.
>
> If you ask some of the people that we personally have used the CALM
> routine
> with, how they felt afterwards, you will find that they felt like they
> had
> never felt before. If you ask some about the special breathing
> techniques
> that are part of FREEWAY-CER the effects they felt they will no doubt
> explain that it was something that was totally unexpected. If you ask
> those we did a healing with on our 2005 FREEWAY-CER unfilmed seminar
> what
> happened you will find that some had amazing results and some of these
> lasted for a while. For those who were in tune with us on that day and
> experienced immediate relief, they could have had sustained healing;
> however in many cases, those healed who later instead of getting on
> with
> their lives and living in the present might have looked back into
> their past
> and doubted the healing. In cases like this they can undo the inner
> healing
> that they had achieved.
> When we teach our students to become freewaycer practitioners they
> will then
> have our blessing, good will and help to ensure that what they use is
> very
> effective, however for their benefit we ask that they attribute us as
> the
> teachers of FREEWAYCER.
>
> We advise that you all don't worry anymore about this matter instead
> spend
> your lives being more attentive to living in the moment and doing good
> to
> all around you including your loved ones, your environment and most of
> all
> those who you find awkward to get on with or feel uncomfortable with
> when
> face to face, such people reflect something within us all that we need
> to
> address, and are our finest teachers.
>
> With affection and love from Tom and Bev -http://www.freeway-cer.com/
>
> ALL OF THE ABOVE MESSAGE'S AND MANY MORE CAN BE FOUND FREE BY
> JOINING THE HYPNOTORIOUS NEWSGROUP HERE AT THIS LINK:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hypnotorious
>
> I have brought this to your attention and posted it openly on the
> groups which
> allow me to post directly in order that the truth be known,
>
> It is my feeling that Creators & originators of stuff SHOULD BE
> CREDITED at all times!
>
> Oh and why waste £20 on Newton's sometimes innacurate book when you
> can download for FREE
>
> my 513 Paged course on all things hypnotic from:http://www.hypnotherapycourse.net
> and also
>
> can watch many trainining videos for FREE at this link:http://www.hypnotherapycourse.net/hypnosis-videos.php
>
> In fact join the hypnotorious newsgroup and you will find numerous
> books, manuals and courses in the "files"
> section teachning most everything you'll ever need to know and all for
> FREE!
>
> Cheers
>
> Alex
>
> PS: Shortly on the Hypnotorious group at this link:http://www.hypnotherapycourse.net/newsgroup.phpI will be releasing
>
> a) The Ultimate Pain Control Training Audio Set  b) The Past Life
> Regression Training Set
>
> c) And Tom Bolton's 60 Second "Calm" Induction Technique (the one
> which is amazingly the same as Newtons - LOL!)
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