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parts formatted in two files.

File 1/2
I : Guidelines For Posting
II : History of ASF
III : Where To Start / What To Expect

File 2/2
IV : Common Acronyms
V : Phrases / Concepts
VI : Gurus, Methods, and Related Websites

IV : Common Acronyms

*** 3 second rule *** *** AFC *** *** AMOG ***
*** Anchor *** *** ASD/LRM *** *** Bitch Shield ***
*** C&F *** *** Close *** *** CB/CockBlock ***
*** DHV/DLV *** *** EC ***
*** FB *** *** FMAC *** *** FR ***
*** GFTOW *** *** HB *** *** IOI ***
*** Kino *** *** LJBF *** *** LTR ***
*** Neg *** *** NLP ***
*** Oneitis *** ***ONS *** *** Pivot ***
*** Sarge *** *** Shit test *** *** Social Proof ***
*** Wing/Wingman ***

*** 3 second rule *** =
A rule/guideline that says you should wait no more than 3 seconds to
approach a woman or group of people. The reasoning is multi-part... That
you will decide on a reason to not approach at all if you do not
immediately approach... That you will overthink your approach and end up
too flustered if you take longer to approach... that the set will see you
watchign and assume you are uncomfortable or not confident

*** AFC *** = Another Frustrated Chump (most guys)
An AFC is basically a guy that has little to no idea how to act around
women in a manner that develops their sexual attractions. They are
accustomed to buying things for women to show they "like" the woman of
their affection/desire. They hear "I like you as a friend" in some
variation often... and don't know why. There are several "scales"
attached to this to denote various stages of being a frustrated chump...
WBAFC (way below)... BAFC (below)... rAFC (recovering)... iAFC
(improving)... PUA (pick up artist)... Guru (pickup artist
trainer/master)

*** AMOG *** = Alpha Male Other Guy
A situation where another guy is present and competing against your PU
attempt or is blocking it more directly than as a friendly (from her
aspect) manner. The AMOG could be other men trying to also pick her up, a
boyfriend, fiance, or husband.. or it could be an AFC with aspirations of
getting this girl.

*** Anchor *** =
A technique developed from Neuro-Lingusitic Programming in which an
"anchor" is used to recall an emotional state of feeling. The anchor is
commonly physical, such as a touch to the arm or hand. It can also be
mental, visual, or even verbal. A common anchor story (from Ross
Jefferies) involves the use of a sugar packet as a focus for the woman to
place happy and loving feelings. You then have her focus her thoughts on
the packet as somethign she can touch or hold to recall those feelings...
and you. Thus associating her feelings of love with you... and allowing
the packet to be a reminder of this state.

*** ASD/LRM *** = Anti-Slut Defense/Last Minute Resistance
Anti Slut Defense is a natural female reaction to imminent sexual
activity. It is from a "chick logic" that occurs when a woman begins to
think about the social implications of having sexual relations,
especially for ONS or "just met you" situations. She begins to think
about the sex that is about to ensue and then realizes that there might
be complications for her social status if she continues and the activity
is discovered.
Last Minute Resistance is similiar to ASD, with a difference being that
LMR is more of a one time resistance to first time sex. ASD can occur
from a partner that has had sex with you previously, but is against some
new concept, such as a threesome or public sex. LMR is more of a
condition where "chick logic" is that if she surrenders to you sexually,
you will leave afterwards, will brag about the conquest, or do some other
undesirable action. It's essentially a reason for why you should not have
sex at all, as opposed to ASD, which is a reason for not having sex "like
this".

*** Bitch Shield *** =
This is a term for the social barrier placed, mostly by women, toavoid
unwanted social interactions from admiring men. With an average of 100 or
more men constantly wanting to ask them if they would like a drink, women
learn to have a "bitch shield" to immediately deflect incoming and
undesired advances. Usually encountered in places specifically geared
towards pick. The obvious fact they are in a pickup locale does not mean
they desire to be picked up by everyone in the place. So, the shield goes
up. The obvious way to get through a bitch shield is to not let her raise
it in the first place or to get her to lower it because she does not feel
a need for it.

*** C&F *** = Cocky and Funny
A bulwark of the DeAngelo school of seduction, cocky and funny refers to
the use of humor with an edge of cockyness to it. Or cockyness with an
edge of humor.

*** Close *** =
To end an interaction with a set or, ideally, with a woman. There are
variations. The most common is a # (number) close, where you get her
phone number. a @ or e close is an e-mail close, where you get an e-mail
address instead of the number. A k close refers to Kiss close... a close
where you end with a kiss. The ultimate is a F close. This is where you
"seal the deal". * close can refer to kiss or screw closing. It is
possible to close a woman with a # close and then *close on the next
encounter. Closing just refers to ending a particular interaction.

*** CB/CockBlock *** =
A cock block is just what it sounds like, a person, possibly even your
target but more often another, that is blocking your attempts to isolate,
close, or simply interact/game your target.

*** DHV/DLV *** = Display Higher/Lower Value

*** EC *** = Eye Contact

*** FB *** = Fuck Buddy

*** FMAC *** = Find Meet Attract Close
The bulwark of the Mystery Method of secudion. The steps of seduction
interaction.

*** FR *** = Field Report

*** GFTOW *** = Go Fuck Ten Other Women The "cure" for oneitis.

*** HB *** = Hot Babe. There are other levels...
HB# is the level of hotness. UG stands for Ugly. WP/Warpig stands for
REALLY ugly. Double/Triple/# Bagger refers to the number of paper
shopping bags needed to fuck her without revulsion. (nice body/face like
death)

*** IOI *** = Indicator of Interest
Body language tells that show a desire or attraction. EC, hair flipping,
blink rates. Kissing is a very strong IOI.

*** Kino *** = Kinesthetic activity.
Kinesthetic means touch. Kino simply refers to using touch to show IOI
and also to garner and escallate sexual tension and attraction. This can
be very subtle, such as a touch to the back of the hand, to very overt,
such as grabbing a buttock.

*** LJBF *** = Let's Just Be Friends
A phrase commonly used by women to inform AFCs that sexual attraction is
as close to negative as it can get. It's her way of telling a guy that
she likes him, but does not consider him as having a penis.

*** LTR *** = Long Term Relationship

*** Neg *** = Negative Compliment
A compliment given to a woman that has a seriously overestimated sense of
worth in order to bring her back down to reality and make her more open
to approach from "lowly" men. It is a compliment, but iwht a negative
tone to it... such as "I love your nails, where did you buy them?" or
"You're really cute for a skinny chick." It MUST not be insulting alone.
Most starting rAFCs then to use negs incorrectly, thinking they are a
cureall to opening.

*** NLP *** = Neuro-Lingustic Programming
The bulwalk for Ross Jeffereies' Speed Seduction. A term created in
psychology to describe how language patterns interact within the human
mind. It is predicated on the idea that how we use language and how we
think are intimately intertwined and the use of language can influence
human thinking and behavior. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-
linguistic_programming for more information.

*** Oneitis *** =
A term used to denote an AFC that is fixated on one woman as the most
special being to ever have graced Earth. The AFC develops a fantasy image
of this person that is so strong that reality would never hope to match.
The most commonly asked question from a oneitis sufferer is likely
"There's this one chick and..." The poor AFC generally will not accept
that his fantasy does not exist in reality. The cure of GFTOW is the best
way to cure this. It is discussed further in Part V of this document.

*** ONS *** = One Night Stand (even if it lasts all weekend)

*** Pivot *** = A woman used to display to other women that you
have the ability to have and keep attractive women interested and around
you. A pivot is often a HB friend that is willing to assist you in
getting other women. A pawn is a variation of the pivot that is a woman
you have just met, but use in a manner similiar to a pivot.

*** PU/PUA *** = Pick Up Pick Up Artist

*** Sarge *** =
To go out specifically looking to pick up women. Ideally with a goal in
mind and using methods and advanced planning.

*** Shit test *** =
A form of "chick logic" where women will check to determine your
reactions, both verbal and non-verbal. A common shit test would be asking
you to buy her a drink or telling you she has a boyfriend during your PU
attempt. Your reactions determine the course of the rest of your
interaction. Note that most shit tests are instinctively performed by
women as opposed to being conscious actions.

*** Social Proof *** =
Signs that a person uses to display their status within a social
situation. Women are extremely socially conscious and seek to improve
social status whenever possible. Your social status is increased by
having HBs around or by being the center and leader of a group of people.
It is decreased by sitting alone in a corner or doing actions that are
socially repugnant.

*** Wing/Wingman *** =
A concept from the movie "Top Gun". your wingman is the guy that backs
you up and keeps enemies (cockblocks) from stopping you in your quest to
nail a target. This is the guy that goes with you and knows how to
entertain friends and such so that you can isolate your target and engage
for a close. The best places to search online for a wing are likely
http://www.themysterymethod.com and P.A.I.R., located at
http://www.fastseduction.com/pair.shtml.

V : Phrases / Concepts

AFC/ Another Frustrated Chump =
The AFC is the reason we're all here. We've all been one at some point.
AFCs are a special breed. Blind to the idea of what women want. Naturals
are a term used to describe men that seem ot be able to naturally get
women sexually attracted with ease and grace. AFCs are the rest of men
wondering why women always seem to like the jerks and assholes. And PUAs
are what we are or hope to become. Men that emulate naturals and learn
what it is that generates feelings of attraction in women. The concept is
simply and difficult all at once. Men tend to use logic to solve problems
in their lives. Women tend to be more open to emotion and less to logic.
So, as men, we try to use logic to attract women.
But women are generally not logical. Emotion is generally not logical and
logic is never emotional. So, there is a paradox. Men can not use logic
to develop attraction, an emotional response. But, there is chick logic.
The logic of emotion. This is where the art and science of seduction
collide, By the use of methods, techniques, and concepts... logical
patterns can be determined and applied to develop an emotional reply from
women... ideally... attraction. But using these, we can logically proceed
from step to step and watch and react to the emotional responses of women
to further develop and increase sexual attraction they have for us. AFCs
seldom realize how this works, though, because the steps are NOT logical.
But they are chick logical. If this makes no sense, then welcome. You're
learning already!

Oneitis =
This is a disease that affects 100%% of all men over that age of 12 at
some point in their lives. It's a condition where a man determines he has
met the "perfect" woman. In most cases, though, it is because he has
built up an imagined ideal of what the object of his desire is. Oneitis
is almost always centered on the most physically attractive woman he has
met upto today. Seeing physical beauty, but unable to cope with how to
approach the woman, he assumes that she is unapproachable by any man. In
many cases, he will assume she is compellte or relatively chaste and
virginal. He certainly will not image her as a very sexually active
woman. Even while she is stringing other men in a parade in front of him.
In worse cases of oneitis, the man will sit for hours as his "special
angel" cries to him about how her latest BF used her for a six hour long
sex-fest and then left her. All while wondering why she can't see how
he's a special guy that would love her and never use her for sex. And
wondering why she isn't having sex with him.
The cure for oneitis is simple and always the same. GFTOW. It has three
main reasons why this is the quick and easy cure. First, in learning how
to game ten other women to have sex with those women, he will learn the
skills needed to attract this woman also. Even though he will initially
deny she's attract to "guys like that", others know better... she is.
Plus, if/when she sees he's gaming other women, she'll wonder why he's
not gaming her. And get jealous. Which is a form of attraction. By
getting skill with women, he'll be able to game her also. Second, in
having sex with ten other women, he's almost certainly going to find a
woman that is better looking, smarter, classier, and alltogether better
than the woman he is pining over. Finally, while he's off gaming ten
other women, he's not stalking and watching her. And she already knows
he's watching her like a hawk watching the last bunny in the winter
field.

3 second rule =
This is a rule/concept for opening sets. the idea is that if you wait..
the longer you wait... for several reasons, it gets harder to open.
You're standing around alone. This is not good for social proof. You're
thinking about the approach... and getting jittery. Not good. And you're
spooking the set. Not good. In other words, like most concepts in PU...
JUST DO IT.

Inner Game =
Inner game refers to how you view yourself... which is ultimately how the
rest of the world will see you also. If you think you are overweight...
you are. If you think you are short, you are. If you think you are a God-
King that women clammor all over and the most successful man in all
existance. You are me.! :) Seriously, if you think you will be
successful in picking up women, your odds of actually being successful
improve exponentially. Inner game is the process of self improvement. And
the real secret of PU is that while it is possible for any guy to pick up
HBs.. it's certainly easier for guys that have improved themselves and
continue to do so. No woman wants to settle for a loser. Neither do you.
So, just as you are looking for someone that's constantly getting better,
so is she. Work on your inner game and your PU rate will improve with it.

Kino =
Kino is the act of using physical contact to escallate a woman's sexual
desire and attraction and to prep her for more intimate contact. The goal
of kino is, of course, sexual intercourse. But, just as you can not go
straight from first gear to fourth without turning your transmission into
spare parts, you can't try to get her from first to fourth. Kino is the
gear switch. Simple touching, like a touch to the arm or hand, is the
start. It might seem uncomfortable at first, but women tend to be more
"touchy-feely" than men. Push yourself a bit. When you sense attraction
and can isolate, then you can move from simply slight touches to hand
holding, placing your hand on her arm longer, putting it on her knees...
and eventually to kissing... higher kino. then, the next gear is under
clothing. Anyways, from this point, if you can't figure out how to
proceed... you've got deeper issues that ASF can't address.

Openers =
Openers are routines that can be used to walk up to strangers and "open"
them to converstation, such that you are accepted into the group, with
the goal of either attracting and isolating your target... or increasing
your social proof.Openers can be anything that gets you into a set. "Hi"
is the most original and common. But, another common opener type is the
"opinion" opener. It basically consists of asking a group for their
opinion on a particular subject or situation. The one caveat to using any
sort of opener, routine, or line is to try and be as original as
possible. Nothing might be worse than waling up to a group of HBs and
asking "Hey I'd like your opinion. My friend has a girlfriend that want's
to toss his old stuff..." and getting "You're the fourth to ask us that
tonight!" And then not having a clue how to recover.
The concept behind using canned routines and openers is that you memorize
them and then run with them. So you aren't thinking about the crap you're
saying. Allowing you to start to concentrate on things like body
language, responses, and all sorts of other things that you might
otherwise not notice while you're busy trying to think of clever things
to say. The male (logical) mind gets into this thinking that there are
"magic" lines you can use to get "lucky". But, the female (emotional)
mind doesn't work that way. No one really knows just how it works... not
even women... but it is emotional. So what you say is not as important as
HOW you say it. Or, more importantly... what you get them to FEEL. If
they FEEL sad.. they are sad. If they FEEL happy, they are. And if you
get them to FEEL horny... get the idea yet?

Negs =
Negs are negative compliments. The concept is that we've all seen women
that act completely unapproachable. That act as if they are God's gift
and that you aren't even worthy enough for them to sopit in your general
direction. And all because they think that somehow having a somewhat
acceptable aesthetically positive attribute (IE: smokin hot bod) somehow
means they have an inalienable right to treat you like dirt. If that
nicely. A neg is a reminder to her that acknoledges her as being Goddess
Sexy... but in the same breath reminds her that beauty is skin deep, and
she's not so hot otherwise. BUT... a neg should NOT be insulting without
also being a compliment. the goal is to get her to open to you, not slap
you.
A great neg starts as a compliment and then adds an unexpected BUT... It
starts as being the everyday kiss-ass lines she expects... and then
dropping a load of crap on her. "When you're sexy you can get away with
wearing shoes like THAT." "I really like your hair. Who does your
coloring?" "Your eyes are a pretty blue. Were'd you buy your contacts?"
Notice that it's not JUST an insult. "Your nails are nice. Are they
fake?" is technically a neg. But, compare to "You're nails are nice. Who
put them on for you?" and compare that to "Your nails are nice... for
fakes." A really good neg is actually and genuinely a compliment. But it
just twists it. The level of negative has to match the level of
"stuckupness" of the target. If your target is not stuckup at all... then
you really shouldn't have any negative to add, either.

DHV =
Display higher value. the concept of this is that in orer to be more
attractive to women, you must display that you have a level of worth to
them and a reason for them to desire you. But, in common fashion, you
can't just walk up and spout off a list of reasons she should screw you.
It would sound fake. And it would be. Imagine how you'd react to a
stranger walking up to you and detailing how he's got this and does that.
So what? BUT... if you DISPLAY your value, without directly calling it,
you can increase your worth in the eyes of others. Compare... "I'm a PsD.
Chemisist that won the Noble Piece Prise for investing in prawn based
feromones to attract dancing women. I'm a genieous. What do you do?"
(yes, I typed that intentionally) compare to "Hey, guys, check out this
photo of the guys I work with. Jokesters!! I was working on this new
chemical scent for a perfume and these guys are joking about using my
diploma to ignite the Bunsen Burner... to melt down my award. So I
sprayed them with 'Eau Du Skunk.' " It's the difference between
involving your set into your world compared to trying to telling about
your world and expecting them to walk to it.

VI : Gurus, Methods, and Related Websites

There are a plethora of people willing to claim guru status. But there's
not really a clear way to determine who is a guru or to even define what
makes someone qualified to be a guru. Some say it requires a successful
business and book. Some say it requires field reports and field
experience. Some say the advice has to work. Some would say it's a
combination. But, the fact is that some things works for everyone, some
things don't work for everyone, and some things don't work for nearly
anyone. So, this is not an all-inclusive list, an endorcement, or a
judgement. (also note, I might have miskaes about the systems and styles
listed. Please let me know if something sounds wrong!!)

Gurus and Methods

Ross Jefferies = Speed Seduction = http://www.speed-
seduction.com
Speed Seduction is a system based heavily on the use of Neuro-Linguistic
Programming. The premise is that by using canned routines that have
trance inducing words, it is possible to get women to begin to think
about sexual desires and equate those thoughts to you, ultimately getting
you laid. Ross's techniques are unique in that he was pretty much first
to equate the idea of using hypnosis and NLP for strickly seduction-based
tactics.

Mystery = FMAC = http://www.themysterymethod.com/
Mystery is the nearly Godlike PUA talked about in The Game. His system
essentially breaks PU into sections and then analyses each step into
further steps and routines to use to go from one to the next. The use of
peacocking perhaps originated as a formalized art/science from Mystery.

Juggler = Charisma/Personality =
http://www.charismaarts.com/
Juggler can be currently seen on the UK TV series "Seduction School". His
system is primarily centered on developing a sense of charisma and charm
that ladies will find irresistible.

Gunwitch = Sexual States =
http://gunwitch.fastseduction.com/
Gunwitch is a relatively regular poster to ASF. His system is primarily
focused on NLP and psychology with some evolutionary science and behavior
evaluation tossed in. The idea being that people tend to act and react
based on psychological and evolutionary instincts that can be directed
and controlled for your own benefit.

Maniac = ??? = http://www.pickupguide.com/
Maniac was/is? a regular poster to ASF.

Formhandle = ??? = http://www.fastseduction.com
I'm not sure if Formhandle can be refered to as a guru or not. Or if he
has a system/style of seduction. He has a website that acts as a sales
portal to other sites. But, his website is referred to by many devoted
fans as the one-stop shop for seduction information. Acronyms,
Techniques, Wingmen, Forum Discussions... if you want to find it...
here's a great place to start your search.

??? = ??? = http://www.bristollair.com/
I don't know who runs it. But, damn is it packed with information. If you
can't find it here.. you'll find a link to it. And if you don't it might
not exist.

SR = Relationship Advice =
http://www.seductionreport.com/
SR, or SeductionReport, is a sometimes regular poster to ASF. His system
is primarily based on developing and maintaining a relationship.

Gordon Roy Parker (or the name du joir) = CUPID based seduction
= http://www.cybersheet.com/
Ray or Gordon's name/handle has changed rather repeatedly in the ten or
so years he's posted to ASF. He's well, let's say, an iconic figure on
ASF. His system is based on a concept called CUPID... a rating system to
determine the life appeal of a person, and then using your own CUPID
rating to seduce women in a range attainable by this level. He also uses
ideas such as using prawns and ASF printouts to seduce strippers, using
money and looks to attract women, and NASH (Not Another Stupid Hottie)
as methods. He also claims to have invented many of the concepts that are
used within the seduction community. Not everyone agrees with his claims.

Style AKA Neil Strauss = Mix it up/Use what works =
http://stylelife.com./
He wrote "The Game". Do I need to say anything more?

R Don Steele = ??? = http://www.steelballs.com/
A poster from ASF's olden days, he stopped posting to ASF quite some time
ago. Don't know diddly about his system or ideas. But he had a hell of a
feud with Ross Jefferies with the effects perhaps still echoing in ASF
still.

http://www.askmen.com/
http://changingminds.org/
http://www.dailyseduction.com/
http://www.dallaspua.com
http://www.sosuave.com/
http://members.cox.net/odious/
http://www.nlpweekly.com/
http://siritalian.blogspot.com/
http://attraction-chronicles.blogspot.com/
http://personal.ansir.com/cube.htm
http://threesomearchive.blogspot.com/
http://www.socialskillz.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLZu8ot_bw4&mode=related&search=

Finally...

You are here, we'd hope, to learn about seduction. What you learn and how
much is completely up to you. How you improve, if you improve and what
you improve is also up to you. It's your life. It's all up to you. No one
cares about you as much as you do.

Keep in mind, ASF was started as a commerical group to promote a product.
The seduction community is first and foremost a business. Some people
want to help. Some people want to make money. Some people want to do
both. Attempts to criticize a business enterprise or model... their means
of income, is not generally welcomed. Often, it induces a flame war...
and there has been a long standing Flame War on ASF pretty much since the
start of the group. Some names have changed, but the motive for some,
profit, remains quite unchanged. So, once again... with all things you
read here... caveat emptor.

If you have other questions, please ask away. Not everyone on ASF likes
to answer questions. But that is changing.

Welcome to ASF and happy sarging!

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