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Affiliate programs violate antitrust law (manufacturers controlling distribution)         


Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot
Date: Nov 21, 2007 13:55

VERY illegal. Just like when the studios tried to control which theaters
showed their films.

The seduction industry is a great example of what happens when manufacturers
of products exclude distributors and try to favor others: the public suffers
through higher prices, and in this case, absolute FRAUD.

--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy

Ray's new "Project 5000" is here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/project-5000

Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which
no longer work.

Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:
http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/?p=1187

Beware! VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. Six of the eight
contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid
targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined
their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about?
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Re: Affiliate programs violate antitrust law (manufacturers controlling distribution)         


Author: Seeker1
Date: Nov 21, 2007 14:59

"Ray Gordon" wrote:
> VERY illegal. Just like when the studios tried to control which theaters
> showed their films.
>
> The seduction industry is a great example of what happens when manufacturers
> of products exclude distributors and try to favor others: the public suffers
> through higher prices, and in this case, absolute FRAUD.

erm...
You mean such as when "Ray Gordon" selects "Yahoo Groups"
as the single exclusive carrier for a product called "Project 5000" ??
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Re: Affiliate programs violate antitrust law (manufacturers controlling distribution)         


Author: Krus T. Olfard
Date: Nov 21, 2007 15:03

"Seeker1@example.com" example.com> wrote in
news:xL21j.1162$B97.75@newsfe7-win.ntli.net:
> "Ray Gordon" wrote:
>> VERY illegal. Just like when the studios tried to control which
>> theaters showed their films.
>>
>> The seduction industry is a great example of what happens when
>> manufacturers of products exclude distributors and try to favor
>> others: the public suffers through higher prices, and in this case,
>> absolute FRAUD.
>
>
> erm...
> You mean such as when "Ray Gordon" selects "Yahoo Groups"
> as the single exclusive carrier for a product called "Project 5000" ??
>

Don't you just love it when gordy roy parker shoves his foot so far into
his mouth that it comes out his ass?

Wotta tard...
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Re: Affiliate programs violate antitrust law (manufacturers controlling distribution)         


Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot
Date: Nov 21, 2007 15:20

>> The seduction industry is a great example of what happens when
>> manufacturers of products exclude distributors and try to favor others:
>> the public suffers through higher prices, and in this case, absolute
>> FRAUD.
>
>
> erm...
> You mean such as when "Ray Gordon" selects "Yahoo Groups"
> as the single exclusive carrier for a product called "Project 5000" ??

No, more like when someone allows some retail outlets, but not others, to
carry a product.

Anyone stupid enough to do that is walking into antitrust liability.

--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy

Ray's new "Project 5000" is here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/project-5000
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Re: Affiliate programs violate antitrust law (manufacturers controlling distribution)         


Author: Seeker1
Date: Nov 21, 2007 15:39

"Ray Gordon" wrote:
>>> The seduction industry is a great example of what happens when
>>> manufacturers of products exclude distributors and try to favor others:
>>> the public suffers through higher prices, and in this case, absolute
>>> FRAUD.
>>
>> erm...
>> You mean such as when "Ray Gordon" selects "Yahoo Groups"
>> as the single exclusive carrier for a product called "Project 5000" ??
>
> No, more like when someone allows some retail outlets, but not others, to
> carry a product.

So "Project 5000" being available *only* via "Yahoo Groups" is not any
form of restriction on its distribution ?

I apologise for the mistake, as I thought that the fact that there is a
single exclusive carrier was some form of restriction...

Silly me.
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Re: Affiliate programs protect their brand         


Author: John Michaels
Date: Nov 21, 2007 16:04

Ray, it is not antitrust if someone doesn't want to affiliate with you. It
is called protecting a brand. You call it antitrust and ignore your own
role in getting your ass kicked out of affiliation agreements.

Have you done anything, made any comments or posted anything that could
reflect negatively on anyone who would or could would allow you to have an
affiliation? Think long and hard. The answer is obvious. When you post
things like wishing cancer on people, threatening lawsuits, 9/11 comments or
just being your anti-social self, you create a negative image for that brand
or product. You ask your question in a vacuum because have selectively
ignored facts. You constant attempts at rewriting history fail because of
your long track record. I know it won't sink in but once again, you can do
stupid stuff and think you can blame other people. For once, be a man,
grow up and accept responsibility for your actions.

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> VERY illegal. Just like when the studios tried to control which theaters...
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Re: Affiliate programs violate antitrust law (manufacturers controlling distribution)         


Author: Seeker1
Date: Nov 21, 2007 16:13

Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote:
>>> The seduction industry is a great example of what happens when
>>> manufacturers of products exclude distributors and try to favor others:
>>> the public suffers through higher prices, and in this case, absolute
>>> FRAUD.
>>
>> erm...
>> You mean such as when "Ray Gordon" selects "Yahoo Groups"
>> as the single exclusive carrier for a product called "Project 5000" ??
>
> No, more like when someone allows some retail outlets, but not others, to
> carry a product.
>
> Anyone stupid enough to do that is walking into antitrust liability.

Let us take a short walk then into the concept of "antitrust liability".
( Just don't stand too close, or people might talk... )

By your definition above, the following are all "antitrust liability"
situations:

1: Car makers limit selling to authorized franchisees.
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Re: Affiliate programs protect their brand         


Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot
Date: Nov 21, 2007 16:15

> Ray, it is not antitrust if someone doesn't want to affiliate with you.
> It is called protecting a brand.

No, it's called exclusive distribution, and it's very illegal.

Otherwise, it would be done all the time.

--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy

Ray's new "Project 5000" is here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/project-5000

Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which
no longer work.

Thinking of taking a seduction "workshiop?" Read THIS:
http://www.dirtyscottsdale.com/?p=1187

Beware! VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. Six of the eight
contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid
targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined
their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about?
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Re: Affiliate programs protect their brand         


Author: Seeker1
Date: Nov 21, 2007 16:48

"Ray Gordon" wrote:
>> Ray, it is not antitrust if someone doesn't want to affiliate with you.
>> It is called protecting a brand.
>
> No, it's called exclusive distribution, and it's very illegal.
>
> Otherwise, it would be done all the time.

When you say "all of the time"...
do you really mean *ALL* of the time ?
( Note: This generally means "without any exception". )

Or when challenged on the validity of "ALL" will you declare:
>Actually, in reasoning classes, the statement
>would be presumed to mean "most" or "many" or even "some."

as you declared when so challenged in a thread on a.s.f. on Monday ?

Meanwhile, what about the "exclusive distribution" situations that I
have listed ?

Are you claiming that they don't actually exist ?
Or that no-one ever noticed them before now ?
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Re: Affiliate programs protect their brand         


Author: John Michaels
Date: Nov 21, 2007 16:59

WRONG, oh newsloon. Excluding you is a smart business decision. I wouldn't
have you near anything.

You haven't presented any facts or evidence that anyone is excluding anyone.
You just don't like the fact that your reputation is crap and no one wants
you to advertise for them.

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