Like I said Corky, I'm new to this whole proper seducing thing. Still
reading & learning and at the same time trying to train during my day.
corky wrote:
> "Apollo Unicus"
gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:483469cb$0$2982$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
>> My thoughts exactly and hey I'm a newbie too. I've got the same
>> "problem", but instead of whining about it, I'm taking matters a little
>> bit different into my own hands:
>>
>> I'm still invited from time to time to have a drink with HER and HER
>> friends. The other guys are really totally AFC'd, even more than me :p
>> Her 2 female friends K & V already stared at me, like considering to kiss
>> me or imagining if I was their BF. One of those is still single and
>> doesn't get laid much. Now that SHE told she has a BF, I've decided to no
>> longer persue HER but HER friend K. This only in the interest of getting
>> to her. Afterwards, we shall see... Maybe I should try to seduce the
>> other one too...
>
> Female nature is pretty weird. Sometimes I think that while boys are outside
> playing, girls are being taught how to fuck with our minds with all their
> mixed signals.
>
>
>
>> corky wrote:
>>> What Alex said...
>>> You know you have the AFC problem, but you are not taking the medicine.
>>> These lengthy, "I know I'm AFC but how do I get this one girl" posts are
>>> common. It is kind of like saying "I know I'm out of shape, but how do I
>>> run this marathon".
>>>
>>> Expand your scope of relationships and keep your "friend" if you like.
>>> Perhaps she will become more interested when you are too busy with all
>>> the girls you are fucking.
>>> Forget her and become a PUA.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alex"
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>>> news:C458D939.128DE3%%akaufmann@nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm an AFC, I have a severe case of One-itis, but I am reading up on
>>>>> pickupguide and fastseduction, and I do actually plan on at least
>>>>> giving
>>>>> those things a shot (especially the eye-contact guide).
>>>>> I realize this will become a really long e-mail, but I'd really
>>>>> appreciate if you could take some time to read it and give me some
>>>>> advice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now the main problem I'm having is the One-itis. I do intend to just go
>>>>> out and find some other girls when it doesn't work out, but for now I
>>>>> would really want to give this girl a shot and see if we have a chance.
>>>>>
>>>>> First I think a quick introduction on the matter would be in order.
>>>>> I'll
>>>>> refer to the girl in question as M. We've been friends for at least a
>>>>> year now, and although we hadn't really seen eachother a lot during
>>>>> that
>>>>> year, the minute I saw her again a few months ago it was as if we'd
>>>>> never stopped meeting eachother. I have been interested in her since we
>>>>> met, but at the time I was with another girl and felt it wasn't the
>>>>> right thing to pursue her. When I met her again, I'd gone through a
>>>>> break-up a month ago, and she'd also recently broken up with her
>>>>> boyfriend.
>>>>>
>>>>> I decided to try and pursue it, and txted her a few days later if she
>>>>> wanted to get together some time and go to a movie. To me it was quite
>>>>> clearly a date, but apparently (from what I know now), it wasn't really
>>>>> for her. We had a great time, I paid for the cinema, she insisted on
>>>>> paying for the drinks. I noticed she was incredibly uncertain around
>>>>> me,
>>>>> and I took that for a sign that she did have some interested in me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Later on we got together several more times, however at her request we
>>>>> just watched movies at my place because she was rather broke and felt
>>>>> bad not paying for the cinema. She was however incredibly busy, and it
>>>>> was rather difficult actually getting a time we were both available,
>>>>> but
>>>>> she always came back to me about it. As I got a bit uncertain I'd
>>>>> asked/txted her a few times if she did still intend to meet up again,
>>>>> and she's always txted back almost instantly confirming that she did.
>>>>>
>>>>> At those dates we just had a great time, but as I was rather cautious
>>>>> (still not quite over my last relationship, and didn't want to ruin the
>>>>> friendship) nothing really happened. She did tickle me at almost every
>>>>> occasion she got, and she enjoyed messing up my hair. I interpreted
>>>>> most
>>>>> of this as signs that she did in fact like me or at least was
>>>>> interested
>>>>> enough in me to want to touch me. Something I feel that is worth
>>>>> mentioning is that she only did this when we were together alone, never
>>>>> among other people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I'd been talking to her house-mate, and after clearing up some
>>>>> things about that I actually did like her, she shared with me that she
>>>>> did in fact think about it, but when she asked M she'd told her that
>>>>> she
>>>>> "was absolutely sure that I didn't like her". Naturally I figured that
>>>>> I'd been doing some things wrong, and I intended to try better at
>>>>> impressing her and showing her I liked her as more than a friend.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, the next two days I had virtually no occasion at all to talk
>>>>> to
>>>>> her, as she was constantly hanging around with another guy. Frustrated
>>>>> by that I today decided (foolishly?) to just bluntly tell her. So I
>>>>> txted her that I really needed to speak to her, and at the end of the
>>>>> day she came to me and told me that if I did still want to speak to
>>>>> her,
>>>>> now was the time. We went outside, I told her that I liked her more
>>>>> than
>>>>> just a friend, and that the fact that she was hanging around with that
>>>>> other guy kinda frustrated me. I can't recall the entire conversation
>>>>> (I
>>>>> was doing most of it on the adrenaline-auto-pilot), but some things I
>>>>> remembered are:
>>>>> - She has never thought of me as a boyfriend, just as a good friend
>>>>> - She has no interest at all in that other guy.
>>>>> - She feels I should find someone else that actually "is a nice girl,
>>>>> and isn't so damn busy and contact-deprived as she is"
>>>>> - She hopes she can still come and cook together once in a while and
>>>>> watch movies.
>>>>> - She feels that friends are there to stick, and is afraid that
>>>>> relations will destroy things.
>>>>> - She values me a lot as a friend, and she considers me her best friend
>>>>> among our student-society, and would hate to lose me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I told her that I thought that she was a genuinely nice girl and I
>>>>> didn't mind the fact that she was busy or other things at all, and I
>>>>> assured her that we would still be seeing eachother.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, here's where the advice is needed :)
>>>>> I myself feel that I've kinda ruined any chance on a relationship with
>>>>> her, but I think the conversation actually was needed for the
>>>>> friendship
>>>>> not to become a huge frustration.
>>>>> I am however completely in the dark on what to do next. She'd promised
>>>>> me before that she would try to keep a spot open for us to meet next
>>>>> week, and she assured me that I was still the top priority for then.
>>>>> Should I have that continue? If so, should I try something special?
>>>>> Should I let her know that I no longer want that?
>>>>> Should I just silently have it pass by and don't respond to her ?
>>>>> Should I wait for her to initiate?
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically: Do I have any chance at all at a relationship with this
>>>>> great
>>>>> friend, and if so, how?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to stress that I also value her very highly as a friend,
>>>>> and wouldn't like losing her as such.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly thanks for reading all this, and I really appreciate any advice
>>>>> you can give me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> A silly AFC
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