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Author: karmasarkarmasar Date: Jun 18, 2008 16:26
Hello. I am new to your community.
Let me first explain myself quickly so that it will be easier for
anyone who replies to assist in an economical fashion.. and then i'll
break out a question I desire an answer to.
I recently became aware of the PUA community through an ex-gf whom
introduced me to some books, among them "The Game" by someone i'm sure
you are all familiar with. A voracious reading appetite all my life
means that I devour books, and this of course was an interesting one.
I began devouring other things that related to the novel in guides and
internet material, including (and it's limited to) The Venusian arts
handbook, the Layguide, The Vh1 show and a few forum posts.
Let me interrupt here to say that I am a mid twenties student headed
for medical school who hasn't had what I would in any way refer to as
'problems with women'. After reading, I suppose I would classify...
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Jun 18, 2008 16:38
You won't find any innovative free material anymore, just infomnercials.
Giving away the info you found (most of which dates back to 1998) was a
one-time-only thing, before people realized how much of a mistake it is to
give quality info away for free online.
Notice it took you so many years to find the info, and only after it came
with "social proof."
You did manage to mention several commercial products, however, which will
make their creators happy.
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Finding Your A-Game:
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!)
The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From
Click HERE: for the ORIGINAL pivot chapter:
http://www.cybersheet.com/pivot.pdf
Here's my Myspace Page: And Pickup Blog (FREE advice)
http://www.myspace.com/snodgrasspublishing
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Author: karmasarkarmasar Date: Jun 18, 2008 16:44
On Jun 18, 5:38Â pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:
> You won't find any innovative free material anymore, just infomnercials.
>
> Giving away the info you found (most of which dates back to 1998) was a
> one-time-only thing, before people realized how much of a mistake it is to
> give quality info away for free online.
>
> Notice it took you so many years to find the info, and only after it came
> with "social proof."
>
> You did manage to mention several commercial products, however, which will
> make their creators happy.
>
> --
> --
> Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
>
> Finding Your A-Game:http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
> Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!) ...
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Author: karmasarkarmasar Date: Jun 18, 2008 17:12
Let me rephrase.
I understand.
So out of what has been 'let loose', Does anyone have anything to
recommend?
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Author: AlexAlex Date: Jun 18, 2008 17:14
in article HK2dncVonNXvAcTVnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@ pghconnect.com, Ray Gordon,
creator of the "pivot" at ray@ cybersheet.com wrote on 6/18/08 7:38 PM:
> You won't find any innovative free material anymore, just infomnercials.
>
> Giving away the info you found (most of which dates back to 1998) was a
> one-time-only thing, before people realized how much of a mistake it is to
> give quality info away for free online.
>
> Notice it took you so many years to find the info, and only after it came
> with "social proof."
>
> You did manage to mention several commercial products, however, which will
> make their creators happy.
>
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Jun 19, 2008 02:01
Dude, you want women who re 9+.
There are men who pay $10K an up for sex with these women. The knowledge of
how to fuck these women is worth a heck of a lot more than that, and you
want it handed on a silver platter over the
internet.
The real question is why you seem to hvae so much faith in USENET to do so
much for you. That's an amazingly high expectation from someone who
purports to be above-average in intelligence.
Read the quote from the game where Mystery said "Living, costs too much."
He spoke that to Neil, which is tantamount to telling him that if Neil
doesn't make HIM rich and famous, he'll kill himself and blame Neil.
"The Game" ignored a lot of the original contributors to the theory if
published (I was not credited with the pivot, for example), so that Mystery
could be its "star." If Mysteyr's game is so great, why'd he have to fake
his "reality" show?
Do you really think people are giong to continue to release new information
if all it will do is cuase other men to game their target women, and those
who are plugged in to the media to get credit for it?
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Jun 19, 2008 03:00
> Let me rephrase.
>
> I understand.
>
> So out of what has been 'let loose', Does anyone have anything to
> recommend?
Many people who post here are paid to promote various products.
You claim to be way above-average in intellect, yet act so eager to take
advice on a group that's polluted with commercial interests and hidden
agendas.
The only way that makes sesne is if your post was a "setup post" designed to
make it appear like the promotional messages in response were not solicited,
or not spam.
Would a man who really is in medical school and fucking 9s act that way?
Hell no, unless he was making a "setup post" as I explained above.
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Author: dracoznadracozna Date: Jun 19, 2008 03:17
> Hello. I am new to your community.
>
> Let me first explain myself quickly so that it will be easier for
> anyone who replies to assist in an economical fashion.. and then I'll
> break out a question I desire an answer to.
>
>
>
> I recently became aware of the PUA community through an ex-gf whom
> introduced me to some books, among them "The Game" by someone i'm sure
> you are all familiar with. A voracious reading appetite all my life
> means that I devour books, and this of course was an interesting one.
> I began devouring other things that related to the novel in guides and
> internet material, including (and it's limited to) The Venusian arts
> handbook, the Layguide, The Vh1 show and a few forum posts.
>
> Let me interrupt here to say that I am a mid twenties student headed
> for medical school who hasn't had what I would in any way refer to as
> 'problems with women'. After reading, I suppose I would classify ...
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Author: Frisco Del RosarioFrisco Del Rosario Date: Jun 19, 2008 04:03
In article pghconnect.com>,
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" cybersheet.com> wrote:
> I can use the information myself to get 9s and 10s
Did you type that with one hand, Gordon Roy?
Gordon Roy, are your favorite people the newcomers to the newsgroups you
spam, because they're not privy to your bullshit yet?
> and make money 100 different ways in America.
Then you must have 100 different ways to pay Thom Geiger the money the
court ordered you to pay him.
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Jun 19, 2008 04:48
>> and make money 100 different ways in America.
>
> Then you must have 100 different ways to pay
That's the SECOND UDCPA violation by the previous poster. That law provides
for $1,000 in statutory damages PER VIOLATION, and since the alleged
"creditor" has been inciting it, well they could be liable too.
That law has teeth. Courts have zero tolerance for violations of it, for
good reason.
Let's see who is behind the posting before drawing any conclusions as to
motive, however.
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Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
Finding Your A-Game:
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!)
The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From
Click HERE: for the ORIGINAL pivot chapter:
http://www.cybersheet.com/pivot.pdf
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