"chloe" <mz_smyth77@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1165865591.186036.112570@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" wrote: It is their fault that they refuse to stand up and be a man and tell that bitch to shut the fuck up or get the fuck out. This is Odiot's concept of being respectful to women. Is he being disrespectful to "women", or bitches? ...