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	<title><![CDATA[FBII XL-21 installer code override]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Hi,<br><br>I just moved into a new home with a FBII XL-21 alarm system.  Previous <br>owner didn't leave me any information about the code and the alarm company <br>that they used no longer in business.<br><br>I have tried reseting the system and was able to reset the master user <br>code.  However, I can't program the alarm because the default installer <br>code doesn't seem to be working.  Perhaps it has been changed or being <br>locked out using software.  Is there a way that I can override the previous <br>installer code or reset it?<br><br>Your help is greatly appreciated.<br><br>attica<br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Brinks Alarms: Beware of the Fuel Surcharge Tax]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[I like to inform consumers when I feel they are being wronged. A run-in with Brinks leads me to believe that I am not alone in my 2 thoughts....<br><br>I recently had a problem with my Brinks alarm. I was trying to test the system and realized I didn't have a live connection with the monitoring group. For those not familiar with the Brinks alarm system (or don't currently own an alarm that is monitored), your are expected by Brinks to "test" your alarm once a month. This is done by asking the system to send a signal to the central server to ensure the unit is performing correctly (verifying a live signal) and then sending a counter-signal back to the device to let the user know (with a loud beep) that a successful connection was made. After repeated tries, I decided to call Brinks to get help with this problem.<br><br>We purchased through Brinks because we wanted a reputable company. We were assured of their great technology and years of expertise in residential service. We were also assured of their no-hassle technical service should we have a problem with our system at any point. Imagine my surprise when I asked for a technician to come out and Brinks hesitated. They first asked if I had a digital phone. I told them I did but it was in place before I had the system put in (which I was told at the time wouldn't be a problem). They repeatedly stressed that their system has problems with digital phones (monitoring requires a connection via the telephone line). They (Brinks) wanted to let me know that a charge would be made if it the problem wasn't theirs. I told Brinks I didn't care as the phone was well in place before and the system had worked fine for months. What I also found out was technicians only work Mondays to Saturdays and only during work hours. With the exception of a Saturday visit, I would have to take time-off work to be home between the hours of either 9:00am - 12:00am or 1:00pm to 4:00pm. I booked a Friday knowing my wife would be home on one of her days off.<br><br>I called later that day to see how things went. My wife told me the technician had come and mentioned that Brinks was having several problems with their systems similar to ours. He ended up fixing the system but then asked my wife for a $5.00 fee to cover the fuel costs for the trip. She paid the fee but knew full well that I would have not endorsed such a cost.<br><br>I called Brinks yesterday to examine the plausibility of the cost. Here is Brinks arguments for charging the $5.00 fee:<br><br><br>    * Its a Canadian Law to charge the $5.00 fuel surcharge.<br><br>    * Its Brinks policy.<br><br>    * Everyone is charged and has been charged since March of 2007.<br><br>Here are my arguments:<br><br><br>    * Firstly, there is no such Canadian Law that asks all services calls for warranty approved work to be charged a $5.00 surcharge for fuel.<br><br>    * The very meaning of the word "surcharge" implies this is a company policy to add an additional cost to its clients, not a Canadian Law demanding such a fee. Also, Brinks constantly referred to this $5.00 surcharge for fuel as a "Fuel Surcharge Tax", talk about trying to group words together to make the argument.<br><br>    * The Protective Service Agreement that I signed with Brinks to enter into this arrangement in section 6. under "Repair Service" does not mention any such surcharge to warranty approved work. There is mention of acts of god, misuse, negligence, fire, but no mention of a surcharge that will accompany a visit where the system is not performing to its designed specifications.<br><br>In the end, the Service Call Manager (of course I had it elevated) gave me another number to call to get my credit of $5.00. He said that he would neither agree or disagree with me on this matter as he did not have the authority to change company policy. This in itself is an admission of error on the part of Brinks.<br><br>If anyone else has had similar challenges, the number to call is: 1-800-437-3611. They are only open Mon-Fri 8am to 5pm. <br><br>Source: <a href="http://my2thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/01/brinks-alarms-beware-of-fuel-surcharge.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://my2thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/01/brinks-alarms-beware-of-fuel-surcharge.h...</a><br><br><br>Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this<br>non corrisponde ad un utente   |message is not related to a real<br>reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an<br>di un sistema anonimizzatore   |anonymous system<br>Per maggiori informazioni      |For more info<br>                  <a href="https://www.mixmaster.it" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">https://www.mixmaster.it</a><br><br>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:17:22 PDT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Please respond - Wind Powered Generators. I will be reading for responses in this newsgroup.]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br><br>"Robert L Bass" <Sales@<a href="http://BassBurglarAlarms.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">BassBurglarAlarms.com</a>> a écrit dans le message de <br>groupe de discussion : qKadnXT007_rJOfVnZ2dnUVZ_g2dnZ2d@<a href="http://giganews.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">giganews.com</a>...<br>>> You are right. This is a commercial post. I have something to SELL. It is <br>>> NOT simply academic.<br>>><br>>> Please object. Please respond...<br>><br>> OK, here's my response...  Go away.<br><br>You can do the same.. <br><br>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:15:12 PDT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Utah Integrator]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[I am looking for a systems integrator in Utah that will service the Park<br>City area. Woodlands/Kamas area to be more specific. Does anyone here know<br>of any integrators in Utah that either handle that area or may know of an<br>integrator that does. This will be an introduction to my client's security<br>department to handle their needs at this location. They will make the<br>ultimate decision about who to use. I am not looking to get involved other<br>than to help locate a company.<br><br>Bob W.<br><br>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:41:55 PDT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[@@@dear friends@@@]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[@@@dear friends@@@<br><br>how are you?<br><br>do you want to save your money?<br><br>and do you want to  win in your life?<br><br>see this site friends<br><br><a href="http://www.richworld2.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">www.richworld2.blogspot.com</a><br>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:24:54 PDT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Auto matic Money-Maker Within 3 minutes]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[What if I told you that for every dollar I helped you make, I'd get a<br>few "pennies" too? Would that make you mad? It shouldn't.<br>What if someone came to town, told you they'd help you start a<br>business locally, plus they would help you set up and get started<br>selling - and they would help you tremendously because they stood to<br>get a small fraction of what you made if and when successful?<br>Would you then be more convinced that they would go the extra mile to<br>guarantee your success?<br>Of course!<br>This is called "profit motive," and it's the same reason banks<br>suddenly become very friendly and loan you and others money because<br>they KNOW that for every single dollar they lend they'll get something<br>back! (And there's absolutely nothing wrong with this scenario, as<br>everybody is happy and wins!)<br>And in the same exact way, I have created an amazing opportunity for<br>you so that whenever you make some money I make a little too!<br>Now here's the greatest secret as to why you can be sure that what I'm<br>giving you will in fact work...<br><a href="http://forceschbak.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://forceschbak.blogspot.com</a>/#<br>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:39:35 PDT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[Steel Beams  Constructions  ADAPT-Builder Software  Genesis Steel  Framing  http://constructsparts.blogspot.com/]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Steel Beams<br><br>Constructions<br><br>ADAPT-Builder Software<br><br>Genesis Steel Framing<br><br><a href="http://constructsparts.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://constructsparts.blogspot.com</a>/<br>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:45:42 PDT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[ADT lawsuit]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://newsmax.com/entertainment/people_lansing_friedkin/2008/07/11/112076.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://newsmax.com/entertainment/people_lansing_friedkin/2008/07/11/112076.html</a><br><br>wonder why they dropped the suit?<br>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:06:02 PDT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[seen this before?]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?bfromind=7434&eeid=5981891&_sitecat=1522&dcatid=0&eetype=article&render=y&ac=1&ck=&ch=ne" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?bfromind=7434&eeid=5981891&_sitecat=1522&dcatid...</a><br><br>court is being consistent with binky ruling.<br>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:14:09 PDT</pubDate>
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	<title><![CDATA[videofied]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Anyone here using this product? It seems like a niche item but an <br>interesting one.<br><br><a href="http://www.videofied.com/uk/Products" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.videofied.com/uk/Products</a>/ <br><br>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:20:14 PDT</pubDate>
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