>So there was this 'helping with life' course, lets say it was called "Better
>Parenting". It seemed to be *exactly* what I wanted, it was actually 3
>courses of 1 year each, each dealing with a different...

> That's exactly why I can't donate money to Christian Children's
> Fund (or whatever they call it). Just give the help, without the
> brainwashing, please, charities. (I read somewhere that most
> charities spend more money on themselves than on their cause.)

> In article 4ax.com>,
> Jyeshta twixtntween.com> wrote:
>
>
>

>> That's exactly why I can't donate money to Christian Children's
>> Fund (or whatever they call it). Just give the help, without the
>> brainwashing, please, charities. (I read somewhere that most
>> charities spend more money on themselves than on their cause.)

>
> The Salvation Army is just as bad about mixing preaching with charity -
> but, unlike some of the others, they've never pretended to do anything
> else.

> So there was this 'helping with life' course, lets say it was called "Better
> Parenting". It seemed to be *exactly* what I wanted, it was actually 3
> courses of 1 year each, each dealing with a different stage of parenting and
> how to improve oneself as both a person, a partner and a parent. The
> curriculum looked great, and the testimonies were wonderful. it said it
> dealt with all the things inpeople's pasts that prevented them fromreaching
> their full potential as a person, partner and parent, and would help
> re-build from those past hurts to make the person into thebest parent
> possible. It fitted my needs perfectly, and it didn't bother me that it was
> run by a Christian organisation because after all, thats what Christians
> want - right? Helping people to help themeselves and to help people raise
> better, more stable kids in a loving and healthy environment, right?
>
> I came >this< close to signing up, commiting myself to a year's worth and
> paying the money (not cheap) when I found its original author's web page.
>
> The course is *not* about 'Better Parenting' after all, buts about "bringing
> the unchurched to Christ". it states right there on its web page that after
> opening up to Christan mentors, the course will slowly introduce the Bible ...

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>> In article 4ax.com>,
>> Jyeshta twixtntween.com> wrote:

>>

>>> That's exactly why I can't donate money to Christian Children's
>>> Fund (or whatever they call it). Just give the help, without the
>>> brainwashing, please, charities. (I read somewhere that most
>>> charities spend more money on themselves than on their cause.)

>> The Salvation Army is just as bad about mixing preaching with charity -
>> but, unlike some of the others, they've never pretended to do anything
>> else.

> Here in the UK where S.A.( affectionately known as the "Sally Anne"
> movement started, they are respected for what they do. As my Mother says,"
> They put their money where there mouth is". They do a lot with the down and
> outs and the homeless. They are a charity that I do give money to.
> At least until we have a Wiccan /heathen charity.