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Author: thedarkonelivesthedarkonelives Date: Sep 22, 2008 13:09
Is the whole thing about Xenu, atom bombs in volcanoes, etc. atually
part of the beliefs of Scientology?
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Author: shadow120shadow120 Date: Sep 22, 2008 13:43
On Sep 22, 12:09 pm, thedarkoneli...@ hotmail.com wrote: > Is the whole thing about Xenu, atom bombs in volcanoes, etc. atually
> part of the beliefs of Scientology?
Yes.
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Author: Hartley PattersonHartley Patterson Date: Sep 22, 2008 13:56
> Is the whole thing about Xenu, atom bombs in volcanoes, etc. atually
> part of the beliefs of Scientology?
Yes, the chief legal officer of the CoS testified as such in court.
It can be argued from Hubbard's writings that he did not expect everyone
to believe everything. This could to considered similar to parts of the
Bible that some Christians consider to by myths, not historical truth.
And, as in Christianity, there are some Scientologists who insist that
everything Hubbard said was True. So if you like the Xenu story is as
'True' as the story of Noah and his Ark.
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Author: Roadrunner.enigmaRoadrunner.enigma Date: Sep 22, 2008 14:41
> Is the whole thing about Xenu, atom bombs in volcanoes, etc. atually
> part of the beliefs of Scientology?
Not quite, it is rather irrelevant.
Roadrunner
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Author: peterschiltepeterschilte Date: Sep 22, 2008 16:05
> Is the whole thing about Xenu, atom bombs in volcanoes, etc. atually
> part of the beliefs of Scientology?
Yes. Body thetans are the spirits of these dead space aliens and
infest your and my bodies, said Hubbard. The scam is mainly founded to
let people pay to get rid of them. (Imagine: Hubbard fantasized you
are full of space alien spirits and you have to pay his company to get
rid of them!)
This whole space opera is part of level 3 of Operating Thetan.
Operating Thetans (OT's) are supposed to have special abilities, yet
no OT ever was able to prove having such abilities.
Below the level of OT3 people are supposed to not know anything about
Xenu. So public CULT members have no idea.
Peter
"Scientology is used to increase spiritual freedom, intelligence,
ability and to produce immortality."
- L. Ron Hubbard, DIANETICS AND SCIENTOLOGY TECHNICAL DICTIONARY,
copyright 1975, reprinted 1987, p. 370
http://www.scamofscientology.nl
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Author: R. HillR. Hill Date: Sep 22, 2008 16:40
> Is the whole thing about Xenu, atom bombs in volcanoes, etc. atually
> part of the beliefs of Scientology?
Yes, it's OT3.
Price of the level itself, over $7,000 for members of the IAS:
http://www.xenu.net/archive/prices.html
Although, in order to be 'ready' to learn about Xenu, one has to go
through all the prior courses/levels (walk backward all the prerequisites):
http://www.whatisscientology.org/html/Part02/Chp06/pg0181_1.html
So you have to add up all the cost of the prerequisites to the cost of
OT3 itself to get a good idea how the teachings about Xenu are
important. Any hint of questioning, dissent on your way up the chart
will set you back (at your cost.) Throw in some arbitraries (i.e. "As
determined by [Case Supervisor]").
On the chart, OT3 (which includes the teachings about Xenu), the ability
gained on the level is described as "Return to self-determinism /
freedom from overwhelm".
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Date: Sep 22, 2008 19:22
On 2008-09-22, Roadrunner.enigma@ gmail.com gmail.com> wrote:>> Is the whole thing about Xenu, atom bombs in volcanoes, etc. atually
>> part of the beliefs of Scientology?
>
> Not quite, it is rather irrelevant.
--
"Life's not fair, but the root password helps."
- Bastard Operator From Hell
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Author: xenubarbxenubarb Date: Sep 22, 2008 19:47
>> Is the whole thing about Xenu, atom bombs in volcanoes, etc. atually
>> part of the beliefs of Scientology?
>
> Not quite, it is rather irrelevant.
>
> Roadrunner
How is it irrelevant? I would say charging hundreds of thousands of
dollars to acquire access to some stupid space opera crap is exceedingly
relevant.
--
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barb
Chaplain, ARSCC (wdne)
"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.
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Date: Sep 22, 2008 20:15
> Is the whole thing about Xenu, atom bombs in volcanoes, etc. atually
> part of the beliefs of Scientology?
Xenu committed planticide (mega mass murder) that occurred here on
earth, releasing the souls of those he murdered, those souls are
trapped on earth, mainly those souls are in amnesia trance.
Those souls infest human bodies, all newly born human bodies are
infested with these amnesia tranced souls.
Hubbard true does not spell out much of the Xenu history, typical of
Hubbard's past lives science fictionesque stories, he superficially
discusses space opera past lives no deeper than Hubbard's style of
pulp fiction character/situation description.
Hubbard's style is superficial, and pulp fictionesque, and a long term
study of all of Hubbard's writings (his pulp classics are being
republished in paperback form, so people wanting to see how entrenched
Hubbard's superficiality is, need browse some of these Hubbard classic
paperback versions of his pulp stories can now easily do once these
paperbacks come out and get reduced to 1-3 dollar prices on Amazon).
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Date: Sep 23, 2008 08:13
On Sep 22, 7:56�am, Hartley Patterson daisy.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:>> Is the whole thing about Xenu, atom bombs in volcanoes, etc. atually
>> part of the beliefs of Scientology?
>
> Yes, the chief legal officer of the CoS testified as such in court.
>
> It can be argued from Hubbard's writings that he did not expect everyone
> to believe everything. This could to considered similar to parts of the
> Bible that some Christians consider to by myths, not historical truth.
> And, as in Christianity, there are some Scientologists who insist that
> everything Hubbard said was True. So if you like the Xenu story is as
> 'True' as the story of Noah and his Ark.
>
> --
> Hartley Pattersonhttp://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/http://news-from-bree.blogspot.com
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