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Author: ShowMeShowMe Date: Dec 29, 2006 12:41
After 26 years and reaching OT 5, L10, 11, 12, and Class 4 I have
decided to leave the Church of Scientology.
Reason: Betrayal After Trust
I believed it when Hubbard said you don't have to die to know who you
are.
I believed it when Hubbard said after completing L10, 11 and 12 you
will be Stably Exterior with Full Perception.
I believed it when Hubbard said you can have certainty of self as a
spiritual being.
I believed it when Hubbard said I can be totally free as a spiritual
being.
Not one of these came true for me or any other Scientologist I ever
knew. All are unattainable.
Hubbard told a staggering number of lies. Scientology was his biggest
science fiction success.
Scientology has one less OT to financially drain or to help spread the
lies. Me!
I didn't know this kind of total freedom could feel so good. Yes!!!
Steve
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Author: LordXenuCruiseLordXenuCruise Date: Dec 29, 2006 12:49
Congratulations. That is wonderful to hear. Looks like 2007 will be a
very good year for you.
It would be great if at some point you could relate to us whar it was
that opened your eyes and how you got to the point where questioning
the "churches" teachings did not leave you feeling guilty. Most of the
stories I have read most Scientologists when they have a thought that
is critical of the the "church" or tech they clamp down on it until it
goes away. I know it is probably very hard to talk about just now, but
when you are ready I am sure there are a lot of people here that would
love to hear it.
Take care and Good Luck
ShowMe wrote:
> After 26 years and reaching OT 5, L10, 11, 12, and Class 4 I have
> decided to leave the Church of Scientology.
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> Reason: Betrayal After Trust
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> I believed it when Hubbard said you...
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Author: butterflygrrrlbutterflygrrrl Date: Dec 29, 2006 12:54
Congratulations, Steve!! Welcome to freedom and good luck to you!
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Author: Out_Of_The_DarkOut_Of_The_Dark Date: Dec 29, 2006 20:47
ShowMe wrote:
> After 26 years and reaching OT 5, L10, 11, 12, and Class 4 I have
> decided to leave the Church of Scientology.
>
> Reason: Betrayal After Trust
>
> I believed it when Hubbard said you don't have to die to know who you
> are.
> I believed it when Hubbard said after completing L10, 11 and 12 you
> will be Stably Exterior with Full Perception.
> I believed it when Hubbard said you can have certainty of self as a
> spiritual being.
> I believed it when Hubbard said I can be totally free as a spiritual
> being.
>
> Not one of these came true for me or any other Scientologist I ever
> knew. All are unattainable.
>
> Hubbard told a staggering number of lies. Scientology was his biggest
> science fiction success. ...
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Author: SusanSusan Date: Dec 29, 2006 20:56
> After 26 years and reaching OT 5, L10, 11, 12, and Class 4 I have
> decided to leave the Church of Scientology.
>
> Reason: Betrayal After Trust
>
> I believed it when Hubbard said you don't have to die to know who you
> are.
> I believed it when Hubbard said after completing L10, 11 and 12 you
> will be Stably Exterior with Full Perception.
> I believed it when Hubbard said you can have certainty of self as a
> spiritual being.
> I believed it when Hubbard said I can be totally free as a spiritual
> being.
>
> Not one of these came true for me or any other Scientologist I ever
> knew. All are unattainable.
>
> Hubbard told a staggering number of lies. Scientology was his biggest ...
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Author: MuldoonMuldoon Date: Dec 29, 2006 21:35
rockyslammer wrote:
>> Minds are the product of brains. Your mind cannot leave your body any
>> more than your fingerprints can leave your fingers and run off to join
>> the Sea Org while you stay home listening to LRH tapes.
>>
>> Human beings are the finest meat machines on the planet -- at least
>> for now. Accept your meat-itude, and leave those spiritual droolings
>> behind.
>>
>> -- Dave Touretzky: "Can the natter; minds are from matter."
>> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets>
> Dave - you are without doubt right. However it's not so easy to jump
> from a true believer of any religion to this. It can take time - even
> years to cross over.
>
The problem *is* Destructive Cultism.
This is *not* about "spirituality" versus "materialism."
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Author: SkipperSkipper Date: Dec 29, 2006 21:56
> In article <291220061445530785%%skipspamless@ charter.net>,
> Skipper charter.net> wrote:>>> Not one of these came true for me or any other Scientologist I ever
>>> knew. All are unattainable.
>
>>They're not unattainable.
>>
>>They're just not attainable through $cientology, because Elwrong was a
>>lying piece of crap.
>
> Being "stably exterior with full perception" is unattainable.
How in the world would you know that? You can't.
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Author: AkaiAkai Date: Dec 29, 2006 22:43
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:45:53 -0800, Skipper charter.net>
wrote:
>> Not one of these came true for me or any other Scientologist I ever
>> knew. All are unattainable.
>
>They're not unattainable.
>
>They're just not attainable through $cientology, because Elwrong was a
>lying piece of crap.
So how? Serious question - I am dying to know, (and hoping the answer
doesn't sound as fantastic as Dianetics-and-Alien-Genocide).
--
"[Scientology is] one of the great anti-intellectual
movements of our time"-- Alex Beam, Boston Globe, Sep 16, 1998
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Author: MuldoonMuldoon Date: Dec 29, 2006 23:30
Akai wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:45:53 -0800, Skipper charter.net>
> wrote:
>>>> Not one of these came true for me or any other Scientologist I ever
>>> knew. All are unattainable.
>>
>>They're not unattainable.
>>
>>They're just not attainable through $cientology, because Elwrong was a
>>lying piece of crap.
>
> So how? Serious question - I am dying to know, (and hoping the answer
> doesn't sound as fantastic as Dianetics-and-Alien-Genocide).
> --
>
Believe what you wish.
The problem is *Destructive Cultism*.
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Author: EldonEldon Date: Dec 29, 2006 23:40
rockyslammer wrote:
>> Minds are the product of brains. Your mind cannot leave your body any
>> more than your fingerprints can leave your fingers and run off to join
>> the Sea Org while you stay home listening to LRH tapes.
>>
>> Human beings are the finest meat machines on the planet -- at least
>> for now. Accept your meat-itude, and leave those spiritual droolings
>> behind.
>>
>> -- Dave Touretzky: "Can the natter; minds are from matter."
>> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets>
> Dave - you are without doubt right. However it's not so easy to jump
> from a true believer of any religion to this. It can take time - even
> years to cross over.
>
> Many ex scientologists get hung up in the nether land of the freezone.
> Still that's better than being a full on scientologist...
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