http://www.nnseek.com/alt.religion.scientology/Inform-7-The-flow-of-rules-is-flawed_s.html Search results for Inform 7 The flow of rules is flawed Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:39:37 CET http://www.nnseek.com/ http://www.nnseek.com/img/64.png 64 64 NNSeek http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80937409m.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80937409m.html Inform 7. To me the "publishing" side IF would involve more than... (not just IF here) is not on all those different systems that Inform can run on. (I don't know too many people on an Acorn or...original poster, but in a wider context. I'm not just saying that the "flow of rules" is flawed, I think the approach ...

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]]> Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:53:25 CET http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_81118913m.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_81118913m.html netnews.net> wrote: This is exactly what I find often happens with rule-based systems. I know that's like a major generalization but I ..., time will tell. Personally, I really like the rule-based approach of Inform 7 and find it a good fit for IF... I fall into the first group, and part of the reason I think rules work well in (that sort of) IF is that the interesting effects happen in ...

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]]> Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:39:37 CET http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_81012929m.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_81012929m.html Inform 7 really wants to start forcing this, make Glulx the default option. Or, heck, take away the Z-machine option entirely -- unless the user switches some...

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]]> Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:53:46 CET http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_81003201m.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_81003201m.html flawed strategy.) So maybe making a customizable "error" ... sort of brings this back to Inform 7 and my comments about its overall design. I think a rule-based system in... talk simultaneously about multiple aspects of what the program is doing: things like Rule for printing the name of the fish when taking inventory: ...

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]]> Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:17:03 CET http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80993217m.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80993217m.html Inform 7. The natural language can allow people... to deal with the mechanics of the conversation code is likely to lose the flow of the dialogue, with the result that the things said will be stiff....) Considering this with conversations and stuff like you're talking about, here's how I see the rules: Inform 7 (as a rule-based system) consists...

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]]> Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:04:20 CET http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80985537m.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80985537m.html Inform 6 to use Inform 7. But I'm saying that it's design (perhaps ...time writing conversation, even as it handles sophisticated state rules about which conversation can be spoken when. The effect of such a system ... to deal with the mechanics of the conversation code is likely to lose the flow of the dialogue, with the result that the things said will be stiff...

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]]> Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:04:34 CET http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80983233m.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80983233m.html Inform 7's design stem from a too-literal adaptation of the behavior ...more friendly to novice writers who were looking for more complete control over the flow of their prose. On the other hand, I did want to have something out there to address the frustration I was hearing...

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]]> Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:41:47 CET http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80979137m.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80979137m.html Inform 6. So I'm not saying you need to know Inform 6 to use Inform 7. But I'm saying that it's design (perhaps understandably) is...of a system such that you can intuitively craft solutions with it is another. I've found that rule-based systems tend to run into stumbling blocks in ...

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]]> Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:11:42 CET http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80976321m.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80976321m.html netnews.net wrote: To me Inform 7 is a system designed by people who knew Inform 6 and designed for people who would, at least at some level, know the limitations and constraints and structures of Inform 6. (I know that wasn't the intent, but that's certainly how Inform 7 appears to me.) Plus this way the designers can see what things ...

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]]> Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:51:59 CET http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80974273m.html http://www.nnseek.com/e/rec.arts.intfiction/inform_7_the_flow_of_rules_is_flawed_80974273m.html Inform 7 is a system designed by people who knew Inform 6 and designed... would, at least at some level, know the limitations and constraints and structures of Inform 6. (I know that wasn't the intent, but that's certainly how Inform 7 appears to me.) Plus this way the designers can see what ...

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