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Re: The only problem with ILLEGAL aliens...         


Author: Lic. Elizondo
Date: May 31, 2008 11:18

On May 31, 2:01 am, Craig Chilton -- Help to make the USA Bigotry-
FREE! mchsi.com> wrote:
>       This post MIGHT seem to be off-topic for some of these groups.  But
> for one good reason, it's not.  All of thse groups actively discuss human
> and civil rights.  And all too many people these days seem to think that
> ILLEGAL aliens somehow *deserve* rights while criminally traspassing in
> this country.
>
>       The only problem with ILLEGAL aliens... is that thay are in the USA
> **illegally**.  And that makes them no more than common CRIMINALS.  
> And thus are entitled to NO more rights than any other criminal is.
>
>       But the GOOD NEWS is that America -- if Congress ever grows a
> brain!! -- can get RID of almost ALL 14 million or more ILLEGAL aliens
> virtually overnight, and with NO bloodshed, and at NO espense to
> taxpayers.
>
>       Here is HOW we can EASILY accomplish that ---
>
> http://apifar.blogspot.com/2008/01/almost-all-of-usas-14-million-ille... ...
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Re: The only problem with ILLEGAL aliens...         


Author: Craig Chilton -- Help to make the USA Bigotry-FREE!
Date: May 31, 2008 19:39

On Sat, 31 May 2008 11:18:29 -0700 (PDT),
"Lic. Elizondo" prodigy.net> wrote:
> Craig Chilton -- Help to make the USA Bigotry-FREE!
> mchsi.com> wrote:
>>       This post MIGHT seem to be off-topic for some of these groups.  But
>> for one good reason, it's not.  All of thse groups actively discuss human
>> and civil rights.  And all too many people these...
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Re: The only problem with ILLEGAL aliens...         


Author: Galen Hekhuis
Date: Jun 1, 2008 07:03

How is a person illegal? I realize there are provisions in the US
Code regarding entry, and fraudulent or elusive behavior to gain entry
into the US is clearly prohibited and criminal conduct. However, I
can find no statute which makes simply being in the US without
documentation a crime. It seems the mere presence of an undocumented
person in the US is not accepted by any court that I have found as
being evidence that the person committed any crime, or even that a
crime has been committed. Statutes from criminal trespass don't seem
to apply, and it seems like measures from civil trespass might have to
be stretched a bit to work. It is had for me to see how simple
geographic presence can be made illegal without resorting to a
"papers, please" type of environment.

But aside from that, how can anyone who claims to be a "Christian"
favor criminal prosecution of a person based simply on geographic
location? Who would Jesus arrest?
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Re: The only problem with ILLEGAL aliens...         


Author: Robert
Date: Jun 1, 2008 12:28

On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:39:40 GMT, Craig Chilton -- Help to make the
USA Bigotry-FREE! mchsi.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 31 May 2008 11:18:29 -0700 (PDT),
>"Lic. Elizondo" prodigy.net> wrote:
>> Craig Chilton -- Help to make the USA Bigotry-FREE!
>> mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>       This...
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Re: The only problem with ILLEGAL aliens...         


Author: Craig Chilton -- Help to make the USA Bigotry-FREE!
Date: Jun 1, 2008 20:50

On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:28:06 -0700,
Robert netportusa.com> wrote:
> Craig Chilton wrote:
>> "Lic. Elizondo" prodigy.net> wrote:
>>> Craig Chiltowrote:
>>>>       This post MIGHT seem to be off-topic for some of these groups.  But
>>>> for one good reason, it's not.  All of thse groups actively discuss human
>>>> and civil rights.  And all too many people...
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Re: The only problem with ILLEGAL aliens...         


Author: Ray Fischer
Date: Jun 1, 2008 22:01

Craig Chilton -- Help to make the USA Bigotry-FREE! mchsi.com> wrote:
>Robert netportusa.com> wrote:
>> Only true because of stupid laws that need breaking. Any law that
>> prohibits a man from seeking to earn a living for himself and his
>> family is a cruel stupid law.
>
> Wrong!

The bigot rewally does hate people enough to impose cruel and unneeded
punishment on people just treying to survive.

An elitist bigot.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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Re: The only problem with ILLEGAL aliens...         


Author: Galen Hekhuis
Date: Jun 2, 2008 07:14

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 06:29:17 -0400, Attila <
wrote:
>On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:03:18 -0400, Galen Hekhuis
>earthlink.net> in alt.abortion with message-id
>4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>How is a person illegal? I realize there are provisions in the US
>>Code regarding entry, and fraudulent or elusive behavior to gain entry
>>into the US is clearly prohibited and criminal conduct. However, I
>>can find no statute which makes simply being in the US without
>>documentation a crime.
>
>Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965

Could you point to the specific language or specific part? All I have
been able to find is quota designations and references to similar acts
in 1924 and 1952. I can't find the language which makes being here
(without documentation) a crime in itself.
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Re: The only problem with ILLEGAL aliens...         


Author: Craig Chilton -- Help to make the USA Bigotry-FREE!
Date: Jun 2, 2008 07:54

On 02 Jun 2008 05:01:14 GMT,
Ray Fischer sonic.net> wrote:
> Craig Chilton -- Help to make the USA Bigotry-FREE!
> mchsi.com> wrote:
>> Robert netportusa.com> wrote:
>>> Only true because of stupid laws that need breaking. Any law
>>> that prohibits a man from seeking to earn a living for himself and his
>>> family is a cruel stupid law.
>> Wrong! We're talking ONLY about ILLEGAL aliens, who
>> therefore are CRIMINALS.
>>
>> In the **sensible** eye of THIS federal law ---
> The bigot rewally does hate people enough to impose cruel
> and unneeded punishment on people just treying to survive.
>
> An elitist bigot.

LOL!! Poor Ray. Too bone-DUMB to know what a CRIMINAL is.

And that is what **all** ILLEGAL aliens ARE.
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Re: The only problem with ILLEGAL aliens...         


Author: Craig Chilton -- Help to make the USA Bigotry-FREE!
Date: Jun 2, 2008 08:13

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:14:45 -0400,
Galen Hekhuis earthlink.net> wrote:
> Attila < wrote:
>> Galen Hekhuis earthlink.net>wrote:
>>> How is a person illegal? I realize there are provisions in the US
>>> Code regarding entry, and fraudulent or elusive behavior to gain entry
>>> into the US is clearly prohibited and criminal conduct. However, I
>>> can find no statute which makes simply being in the US without
>>> documentation a crime.
>> Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965
> Could you point to the specific language or specific part? All I have
> been able to find is quota designations and references to similar acts
> in 1924 and 1952. I can't find the language which makes being here
> (without documentation) a crime in itself.
> Craig claims to be a "Christian" (of some sort), and I was
> asking him. I'll ask again. Who does Craig think Jesus would deport?
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Re: The only problem with ILLEGAL aliens...         


Author: Galen Hekhuis
Date: Jun 2, 2008 08:54

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:13:37 GMT, Craig Chilton -- Help to make the
USA Bigotry-FREE! mchsi.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 10:14:45 -0400,
>Galen Hekhuis earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Attila < wrote:
>>> Galen Hekhuis earthlink.net>wrote:
>
>
>>>> How is a person...
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