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Author: JJ Date: Sep 9, 2008 05:56
If Joe Biden is a man of his word, this is shaping up to be a great ticket
the Democrats have nominated.
http://www.citizenlink.org/CLNews/A000008122.cfm
Biden Says He Believes Life Begins at Conception
Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic nominee for vice president, told NBC's "Meet
the Press" that as a Catholic, he believes life begins at conception. Yet
the Delaware senator has a strong pro-abortion voting record.
"I'm prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment
of conception," he said.
Dawn Vargo, bioethics analyst for Focus on the Family Action, said: "Life
begins at fertilization - a new, unique human being is created when sperm
and egg unite.
"If Sen. Biden considered the science and really believed what he says, he
would act on those beliefs and oppose abortion. Otherwise, his words are
empty."
--
J Young
Jvisions@ live.com
Owner of Eric Berg aka 'LC'
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Author: snexsnex Date: Sep 9, 2008 06:18
On Sep 8, 10:56 pm, "J" live.com> wrote:> If Joe Biden is a man of his word, this is shaping up to be a great ticket
> the Democrats have nominated.
>
> http://www.citizenlink.org/CLNews/A000008122.cfm
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> Biden Says He Believes Life Begins at Conception
>
> Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic nominee for vice president, told NBC's "Meet
> the Press" that as a Catholic, he believes life begins at conception. Yet
> the Delaware senator has a strong pro-abortion voting record.
>
> "I'm prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment
> of conception," he said.
>
> Dawn Vargo, bioethics analyst for Focus on the Family Action, said: "Life
> begins at fertilization - a new, unique human being is created when sperm
> and egg unite.
>
> "If Sen. Biden considered the science and really believed what he says, he ...
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Author: Uncle VicUncle Vic Date: Sep 9, 2008 08:00
One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" live.com> wrote:
> Biden Says He Believes Life Begins at Conception
And you believe there are talking snakes and people who can rise up from
the dead and float up into the sky.
People harbor all kinds of ridiculous beliefs. Don't forget, they're only
beliefs.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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Author: RichoRicho Date: Sep 9, 2008 09:20
On Sep 9, 1:56 pm, "J" live.com> wrote:
Then he is ignorant of science - the sperm and egg are also alive.
Life began about 4 billion years ago.
The egg and sperm are alive as are the cells that they come from.
And so on back in an unbroken chain of life for 4 billion years.
When does a particular glob of life become a person?
Traditionally at birth - although in some cultures a baby was not
considered a person until it was one month old.
A sensible tradition when infant mortality is very high.
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Author: NosterillNosterill Date: Sep 9, 2008 10:54
On Sep 9, 4:56 am, "J" live.com> wrote:> If Joe Biden is a man of his word, this is shaping up to be a great ticket
> the Democrats have nominated.
>
> http://www.citizenlink.org/CLNews/A000008122.cfm
>
> Biden Says He Believes Life Begins at Conception
>
> Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic nominee for vice president, told NBC's "Meet
> the Press" that as a Catholic, he believes life begins at conception. Yet
> the Delaware senator has a strong pro-abortion voting record.
>
> "I'm prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment
> of conception," he said.
>
> Dawn Vargo, bioethics analyst for Focus on the Family Action, said: "Life
> begins at fertilization - a new, unique human being is created when sperm
> and egg unite.
>
> "If Sen. Biden considered the science and really believed what he says, he ...
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Author: JohnNJohnN Date: Sep 9, 2008 17:52
On Sep 8, 11:56 pm, "J" live.com> wrote:> If Joe Biden is a man of his word,
He's a better man than John McCain.
JohnN
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Author: JackJack Date: Sep 9, 2008 17:58
snex wrote:
> On Sep 8, 10:56 pm, "J" live.com> wrote:>> If Joe Biden is a man of his word, this is shaping up to
>> be a great ticket the Democrats have nominated.
>>
>> http://www.citizenlink.org/CLNews/A000008122.cfm
>>
>> Biden Says He Believes Life Begins at Conception
>>
>> Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic nominee for vice
>> president, told NBC's "Meet the Press" that as a
>> Catholic, he believes life begins at conception. Yet the
>> Delaware senator has a strong pro-abortion voting
>> record.
>>
>> "I'm prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life
>> begins at the moment of conception," he said.
>>
>> Dawn Vargo, bioethics analyst for Focus on the Family
>> Action, said: "Life begins at fertilization - a new, ...
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Author: JackJack Date: Sep 9, 2008 18:01
> Traditionally at birth - although in some cultures a baby
> was not considered a person until it was one month old.
I've heard that too but I couldn't name one.
> A sensible tradition when infant mortality is very high.
>
> Rationally the answer is difficult to give definitively -
> obviously a fertilized egg is not a person and a 6 year
> old *is* and so there is a a point somewhere in between
> the two that we have to say "its a person".
> The most obvious place to draw the line is birth.
> Obviously even a baby isn't a *full* person
Whatever that's supposed to mean.
> but we have
> decided to give it the protection of society as if it was
> a full member of society.
Except it's okay to cut off part of it's penis if it's real young.
>
> Life is not the issue (never was) - person-hood and
> rights are the issue.
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Author: Leo MarxLeo Marx Date: Sep 9, 2008 18:49
J wrote:
>
> If Joe Biden is a man of his word, this is shaping up to be a great ticket
> the Democrats have nominated.
>
> http://www.citizenlink.org/CLNews/A000008122.cfm
>
> Biden Says He Believes Life Begins at Conception
>
> Sen. Joe Biden, the Democratic nominee for vice president, told NBC's "Meet
> the Press" that as a Catholic, he believes life begins at conception. Yet
> the Delaware senator has a strong pro-abortion voting record.
>
> "I'm prepared as a matter of faith to accept that life begins at the moment
> of conception," he said.
>
> Dawn Vargo, bioethics analyst for Focus on the Family Action, said: "Life
> begins at fertilization - a new, unique human being is created when sperm
> and egg unite.
> ...
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