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Group: alt.religion.christian.eastorthodox · Group Profile
Author: LiamToo
Date: May 13, 2008 13:29

On May 13, 12:10 am, infowolf1 aol.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 12:27�pm, "OrthodoxNews" nospam04.net> wrote:
>
>> ***Since the Church was using the Julian Calendar, what difference does it
>> make whether the Jewish calendar followed Nicea? None whatsoever. You seem
>> to separate Christ from the Church. Not so. Scripture tells us that the
>> Church **IS** the Body of Christ. The Church is perfect because Christ and
>> the Church are one. What the Church says and does is, in reality, Christ's
>> desire.
>
>      Christ is Jesus and His Physical Person Body is in
>      heaven, at the right hand of the Father, so says
>      Scripture and Creed.
>
>      A mystical body is not a literal body. Was your flesh
>      on the cross?
>
>      What the church does is what Christ is doing, yeah,
>      after enough time has settled it out, but it seems some
>      things are catch as catch can.
>
>      We are all forgetting that God has spoken about HIS
>      preferred date for Pascha, The Holy Light reportedly
>      refused to come on New Calendar Easter in 1929, and
>      the Jerusalem Patriarchate, which had been tricked into
>      thinking everyone was going for it when they weren't,
>      went back immediately to Old Calendar Pascha, and
>      The Holy Light came.
>
>      On an island there is a special kind of snake that only
>      comes out on a special date of The Theotokos, I forget
>      if it is Dormition or her Nativity, and when attempts are
>      made to keep any in captivity they disappear, even from
>      sealed jars, after they are due to leave.
>
>      This island has no Old Calendar churches, because
>      the snakes came on the New Calendar date.
>
>      Now, let's look at this. Pascha is THE most important
>      event, and "its all about Jesus," and the Old Calendar,
>      especially when you make sure to celebrate after
>      Passover, points to a particular time that God in the Person
>      of Jesus invaded human history.
>
>      So, Pascha must stay on the Old Calendar, the rest
>      can shift or whatever. The ICONNING by action of
>      something is at issue here. By celebrating on a system
>      supposes the equinox still comes when it did when Christ
>      was here, and celebrating His Resurrection after Passover,
>      the whole picture created is an accurate one.
>
>      The Nicene decision was in context of the passover
>      dispute, precisely to determine whether to keep passover
>      with the Jews, or throw the focus on what happened just
>      AFTER passover.

As early as 120 AD during the era of Pope Sixtus as written by St.
Irenæus and 190 AD during the era of Pope Victor as written by
Eusebius in Historie Ecclesastica, the Quartodecimans existed. Their
famous leader was St. Polycarp, the disciple of St. John. In 150 AD,
Pope Anicetus persuaded Polycarp to relinquish his unpopular belief to
no avail. Nevertheless, Polycarp was never excummunicated.

At the Council of Nicaea, the Easter controversy was finally settled
with the pronouncement of Constantine as follows:

"At this meeting the question concerning the most holy day of Easter
was discussed, and it was resolved by the united judgment of all
present that this feast ought to be kept by all and in every place on
one and the same day. . . And first of all it appeared an unworthy
thing that in the celebration of the Jews, who have impiously defiled
their hands with enormous sin. . . for we have received from our
Saviour a different way. . . And I myself have undertaken that this
decision should meet with the approval of your Sagacities in the hope
that your Wisdoms will gladly admit that practice which is observed at
once in the city of Rome and in Africa, throughout Italy and in
Egypt. . . with entire unity of judgment."

Source: "Life of Constantine" (III, xviii sq.)--Eusebius

The important Church of Antioch was still dependent upon the Jewish
calendar for its Easter. The Syrian Christians always held their
Easter festival on the Sunday after the Jews kept their Pasch. On the
other hand at Alexandria, and seemingly throughout the rest of the
Roman Empire, the Christians calculated the time of Easter for
themselves, paying no attention to the Jews.
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