> On 14 Dec 2006 15:40:03 -0800, while bungee jumping,
> "elemtilas" yahoo.com> shouted thusly:
>
>

>>> I think I addiquately addressed all of these errors in my previous reply

>>
>>No, you didn't.

>
> Of course not! You didn't like the answer, so it couldn't
> have been adequate!

> On 14 Dec 2006 15:36:46 -0800, while bungee jumping,
> "elemtilas" yahoo.com> shouted thusly:
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>>> 2Ti 3:17 so that the person who serves God may be fully qualified and
>>> equipped to do every kind of good deed.
>>>
>>> It can be seen from these verses that what has been written is enough.

>>
>>Arguable, certainly. He says pretty clearly that whatever is accounted
>>as "scripture" is useful for such purposes. Says nothing about
>>sufficiency! The fact that people of all religious bents have seen fit
>>to keep writing and writing long after their original teacher has
>>passed on -- for that matter, the very fact that the NT contains so
>>much that is NOT Jesus's word or teaching (instead was written by Saul)
>>-- indicates that indeed the quantity is not enough.

>
> Oh, I get it! So, I am free to write whatever I want to
> and it is Scripture, right?! ...

>> What I mean by "general equivalent state" is this. The end goal of most
>> religions, and certainly the "great" religions, is union with the
>> Supreme Being, as imagined by the devotees of those religions.
>> Generally speaking, Christians beleive in an eternal life lived in the
>> presence of God; Moslems believe something similar; Buddhists have
>> nirvana; some Pagans have the Elysian Fields or Valhal. The point is
>> that people believe there is something beyond the merely physical world
>> and that death is the gateway thereto.
>>
>> The "means" are simply the rules or laws or commandments or beliefs and
>> practices that a devotee believes will send him towards that union with
>> the Supreme Being. Buddhists believe that gradual spiritual
>> purification and growth, leading to a release from all desires, is the
>> means of reaching the goal. Orthodox Christians espouse the belief in
>> Jesus as the saviour, by his sacrifice on Calvary, and also that by
>> following his teachings the goal is reached. Moslems believe that the
>> commandments of the Koran (the five pillars) must be followed and
>> espouse the faith that all fate rests in God's hands. It is very
>> interesting to note that both Christianity and Islam share the belief ...

>>> I'm going to work backwards sort of here. In Acts 4:12 the Apostle Peter
>>> told the multitude that Jesus is "the {only} name" and that "there is no
>>> other name." Then in John 14:6 Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth,
>>> and
>>> the life; no man comes to the father but by me."

>>
>> It would be an interesting experiment to try and get into Jesus's head
>> to find out what he meant here, since we really have no way of knowing
>> what he actually and truly said.
>>

> Let me quote
> 2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching the
> truth, rebuking error, correcting faults, and giving instruction for right
> living,
>
> 2Ti 3:17 so that the person who serves God may be fully qualified and
> equipped to do every kind of good deed.
>
> It can be seen from these verses that what has been written is enough. ...