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Group: alt.religion.biblestudy · Group Profile
Author: DougDoug Date: Aug 30, 2008 06:22
In message 4ax.com>
old man joe home.com> wrote:
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> " from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky;
> for
> I am sorry that I have made them.
>
> But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD. " Gen. 6:7,8
>
> in the minds of the Universalists, everyone is saved since
> Christ
> died for everyone. yet, while the Ark is a spiritual metaphor as
> a type of Christ, the whole human race was drowned except for Noah
> and his family.
>
> the drowned humans were counted by God as no more value than the
> animals that were drowned... even of less value then the animals
> that were saved by being graced to enter the Ark.
>
> so here we are told of a Savior by the Universalists that Christ
> paid the penalty for the sins of all men yet God treated them as
> of less value than the animals that were saved by entering the
> Ark.
>
> apparently, the Universalists teach a Savior who can't save
> sinner's. He saved Noah and his family, redeeming Noah by the
> blood of Christs atonement all the while His atonement was
> ineffectual for the tens of thousands, perhaps millions of people
> He chose to destroy.
>
> while God makes a clear distinction between those whom He
> chooses to
> save and those whom He chooses not to save, ( Jn. 17: 9 ) the
> Universalists do not. in the world of Universalism, Christ paid
> the penalty for the sins of those He destroyed in Sodom and
> Gomorrah... having the same love, mercy and grace He showed Lot.
Although Sodom was destroyed early in the Bible story, it is
frequently mentioned in prophecy. For example, in Ezekiel 16, it is
mentioned along with Samaria, in a prophecy about Jerusalem, which
says those three cities are sisters. Jesus mentioned Sodom on
several occasions. Jesus said the people of Sodom will be raised up
in the judgment, and will be in a better standing than the Jews who
heard Jesus preach and saw his miracles, but rejected his message.
Matthew 11:23-24
And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought
down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in
thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this
day.
But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of
Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.
Ezekiel's prophecy speaks of the restoration of Sodom, Samaria and
Jerusalem. [Ezekiel 16:55]
Since the only survivors of the destruction of Sodom were Lot and
his two daughters, that could only occur in the judgment.
>
> the Universalists do not get their theology from Holy Scripture
> nor
> are they taught by the Holy Spirit to even consult God's Word, the
> Bible.
>
> " To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak
> according to
> this word, it is because no light is in them. " Is. 8:20
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