Re: All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me... Jn 6:37 Irresistable Grace plus Perserverance of the Saints
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Re: All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me... Jn 6:37 Irresistable Grace plus Perserverance of the Saints         


Author: Randy ®
Date: Sep 7, 2008 08:38

On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:14:37 -0400,
in article 4ax.com>,
old man joe home.com> wrote:
> that they, the elect, had nothing at all to do with choosing Christ
>but that " He chose us. " Eph. 1:4 and that this choice of whom
>would be elect is based on the " kind intention of His will, to the
>praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in
>the Beloved. " Eph. 1:5,6.
>
> " freely bestowed " ... not earned by " making a decision for
>Christ " or some " sinners prayer " or any other co-redeeming methods
>dreamed up by blasphemous heretics.

That is correct. Only the elect, whom God chose, will receive
saving faith in Christ, and it will be by faith in Christ's
work, not personal merits, or will (John 1:13; Rom. 9; etc.).
But that does not mean that therefore Christ died only for the
elect, which the Bible nowhere states.

Fact is, even the elect must be saved by objective faith in
the proclaimed word of God, regarding Christ's death and
resurrection for their sins. We are not saved by the arrogant
assumption that somehow...
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