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Author: buckeyebuckeye Date: May 21, 2008 11:18
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May 16, 2008
California Marriage Decision Respects Boundaries Between Religion
And Government, Says Americans United
Religious Groups Remain Free To Make Decisions About Marriage In
Keeping With Their Theology, Says AU's Lynn
The California Supreme Court decision in favor of same-sex marriage
respects the boundaries between religion and government, says Americans
United for Separation of Church and State
In a May 15 decision, the court majority held that the state constitution
mandates that same-sex couples have the same right to the benefits of civil
marriage as opposite-sex couples.
The justices made clear, however, that the ruling applies only to civil
marriages. Religious communities remain free to marry same-sex couples or
not, in keeping with their theology.
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Author: Peter FranksPeter Franks Date: May 21, 2008 18:49
buckeye wrote:
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> May 16, 2008
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> California Marriage Decision Respects Boundaries Between Religion
> And Government, Says Americans United
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> Religious Groups Remain Free To Make Decisions About Marriage In
> Keeping With Their Theology, Says AU's Lynn
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> The California Supreme Court decision in favor of same-sex marriage
> respects the boundaries between religion and government, says Americans
> United for Separation of Church and State
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> In a May 15 decision, the court majority held that the state constitution ...
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Author: Peter FranksPeter Franks Date: May 22, 2008 01:27
> On Wed, 21 May 2008 09:49:11 -0700, Peter Franks
> none.com> wrote:
> >>> In a May 15 decision, the court majority held that the state constitution
>>> mandates that same-sex couples have the same right to the benefits of civil
>>> marriage as opposite-sex couples.
>> Rights don't come from a constitution or the government; governments are
>> instituted to secure rights, not mandate them.
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> Therefore, government cannot exclude targeted
> individuals those same rights.
Correct.
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Author: Peter FranksPeter Franks Date: May 22, 2008 01:29
> On Wed, 21 May 2008 09:49:11 -0700, Peter Franks
> none.com> wrote:
> >>> In a May 15 decision, the court majority held that the state constitution
>>> mandates that same-sex couples have the same right to the benefits of civil
>>> marriage as opposite-sex couples.
>> Rights don't come from a constitution or the government; governments are
>> instituted to secure rights, not mandate them.
>
> Therefore, government cannot exclude targeted
> individuals those same rights.
Correct.
Next issue:
Is marriage a right or a privilege?
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Author: thomas p.thomas p. Date: May 22, 2008 11:51
"Peter Franks" none.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:Se2Zj.679$JI2.576@newsfe13.lga...>> On Wed, 21 May 2008 09:49:11 -0700, Peter Franks
>> none.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In a May 15 decision, the court majority held that the state
>>>> constitution
>>>> mandates that same-sex couples have the same right to the benefits of
>>>> civil
>>>> marriage as opposite-sex couples.
>>> Rights don't come from a constitution or the government; governments are
>>> instituted to secure rights, not mandate them.
>>
>> Therefore, government cannot exclude targeted
>> individuals those same rights.
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> Correct.
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> Next issue: ...
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Author: thomas p.thomas p. Date: May 22, 2008 11:53
"Peter Franks" none.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:5oYYj.138$J75.57@newsfe20.lga...> buckeye wrote:
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>> May 16, 2008
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>> California Marriage Decision Respects Boundaries Between Religion And
>> Government, Says Americans United
>> Religious Groups Remain Free To Make Decisions About Marriage In Keeping
>> With Their Theology, Says AU's Lynn
>>
>> The California Supreme Court decision in favor of same-sex marriage
>> respects the boundaries between religion and government, says Americans
>> United for Separation of Church and State
>>
>> In a May 15 decision, the court majority held that the state constitution
>> mandates that same-sex couples have the same right to the benefits of ...
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Author: Jeff StricklandJeff Strickland Date: May 23, 2008 02:02
"Peter Franks" none.com> wrote in message
news:Se2Zj.679$JI2.576@newsfe13.lga...>
> Is marriage a right or a privilege?
It's a privilege, like driving. If it was a right, they would not give out a
license to marry.
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Author: Cary KittrellCary Kittrell Date: May 23, 2008 03:17
In article "Jeff Strickland" verizon.net> writes:>
> "Peter Franks" none.com> wrote in message
> news:Se2Zj.679$JI2.576@newsfe13.lga...>>
>> Is marriage a right or a privilege?
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> It's a privilege, like driving. If it was a right, they would not give out a
> license to marry.
They give out licenses to bear arms....
-- cary
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Author: Jeff StricklandJeff Strickland Date: May 23, 2008 03:53
> In article "Jeff Strickland"
> verizon.net> writes:>>
>> "Peter Franks" none.com> wrote in message
>> news:Se2Zj.679$JI2.576@newsfe13.lga...>>>
>>> Is marriage a right or a privilege?
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>> It's a privilege, like driving. If it was a right, they would not give
>> out a
>> license to marry.
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> They give out licenses to bear arms....
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They give out fishing licenses too.
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Author: Jeff StricklandJeff Strickland Date: May 23, 2008 03:59
I think that the California Supreme Court is engaged in legislation from the
bench. This state has made clear through voter referendum that passed by a
nearly 2/3rd majority that marriage is an institution born out of the union
of one man and one woman. The court ruled wrong.
Be that as it is, there is a ballot measure in the state that is shattering
signature gathering guidelines to put a State Constitutional Amendment on
the ballot this November. I think the court should put an injunction on gay
marriage pending the outcome of voting in November.
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