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Author: Sarah Houston
Date: Jun 4, 2008 11:31

http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/commentary/wb/164311

In Webster's English

Stephen P. Halbrook

Halbrook, an attorney and research fellow at The Independent Institute,
Oakland, Calif., is author of "The Founders' Second Amendment: Origins
of the Right to Bear Arms."

Anticipating the Supreme Court's expected late June decision in
District of Columbia v. Heller, which will decide the constitutionality
of a D.C. law restricting gun-ownership rights, many analysts have
turned to the Founders' writings in an effort to understand the Second
Amendment. What analysts need to do -- recognizing that language and
word usage change over time -- is turn to America's first dictionary.

The Second Amendment states simply, "A well regulated Militia, being
necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to
keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
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Author: me
Date: Jun 4, 2008 11:56

On Jun 4, 2:31 pm, Sarah Houston pndfnospam.com> wrote:
> http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/commentary/wb/164311
>
> In Webster's English
>
> Stephen P. Halbrook
>
> Halbrook, an attorney and research fellow at The Independent Institute,
> Oakland, Calif., is author of "The Founders' Second Amendment: Origins
> of the Right to Bear Arms."
>
[snip]
> The Founders worded the Second Amendment in an easy to understand
> manner.  Individuals have a right to have arms in their houses and to
> carry them for  protection, and the government may not violate that
> right.
>
> Modern contortions of language can't change that meaning because we can
>  still refer to Noah Webster.

This entire screed ignores potentially the largest point of
contention.
The amendment uses the expression "the right". There was a right that
was intended to be protected from federal interference...
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Author: Gramps
Date: Jun 4, 2008 16:50

"me" slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote in message
news:e18415ba-99b4-4c03-bb44-c07dbd6086f9@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 4, 2:31 pm, Sarah Houston pndfnospam.com> wrote:
>> http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/commentary/wb/164311
>>
>> In Webster's English
>>
>> Stephen P. Halbrook
>>
>> Halbrook, an attorney and research fellow at The Independent Institute,
>> Oakland, Calif., is author of "The Founders' Second Amendment: Origins
>> of the Right to Bear Arms."
>>
> [snip]
>> The Founders worded the Second Amendment in an easy to understand
>> manner. Individuals have a right to have arms in their houses and to
>> carry them for protection, and the government may not violate that
>> right.
>>
>> Modern contortions of language can't change that meaning because we can ...
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Author: Benj
Date: Jun 4, 2008 17:29

On Jun 4, 2:56 pm, me slr.orl.lmco.com> wrote:
>     This entire screed ignores potentially the largest point of
> contention.
> The amendment uses the expression "the right".  There was a right that
> was intended to be protected from federal interference.  It is not
> clear that
> the second was intended to be the protection of "that" right, but in
> fact
> appeared to be a protection of the militia.  

Yawn! Same old "but you said 'militia'" bull!

For anyone who understand the English language (and anti-gun liberals
are VERY good with the subtleties of language) it's clear that the
PEOPLE were understood to HAVE the right to keep and bear arms which
the government was NOT to infringe! A militia (since you said
"militia") is clearly the idea of ALL able bodied (men then, and
everybody now) being allowed to own and carry arms since they might be
expected to serve in the militia at any time. (At times the law even
specified that they bring their own arms).
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Author: mariposas rand mair fheal
Date: Jun 4, 2008 22:20

In article <50re4454iqs5s85ur40rrv15uf89t3uevc@4ax.com>, ZeD hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Every sane and honest American that can legally own
> a firearm should be compelled to own one and practice
> using it and to carry it in public so that criminals
> will not be able to prey upon the public. The cops

simple challenge nobody else can meet

i live next door to one of the safest city
with a population over 500 000 (san jose)
i dont see anyone but peace officers carrying firearms

so prove to me that we would have even less crime
if everyone carried firearms

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limp and spineless lint for brains is better yet and nice
then rueing pair of shrub and dick the republican lice
call me desdenova seven seven seven seven seven seven
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Author: Road taco
Date: Jun 5, 2008 00:18

mariposas rand mair fheal wrote:
> In article <50re4454iqs5s85ur40rrv15uf89t3uevc@4ax.com>, ZeD hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Every sane and honest American that can legally own
>> a firearm should be compelled to own one and practice
>> using it and to carry it in public so that criminals
>> will not be able to prey upon the public. The cops
>
> simple challenge nobody else can meet
>
> i live next door to one of the safest city
> with a population over 500 000 (san jose)
> i dont see anyone but peace officers carrying firearms
>
> so prove to me that we would have even less crime
> if everyone carried firearms
>
Who cares? All you fruits and nuts are going to be fish food soon, or
die of AIDS. ...
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Author: Jim Wilkins
Date: Jun 5, 2008 04:54

On Jun 5, 1:20 am, mariposas rand mair fheal yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> i live next door to one of the safest city
> with a population over 500 000 (san jose)
> i dont see anyone but peace officers carrying firearms

Of course you don't see them, they're concealed.
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Author: mariposas rand mair fheal
Date: Jun 5, 2008 05:09

In article <8ad1beef-a82d-4e8d-a62f-ce1b33445c58@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Jim Wilkins gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 1:20
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Author: TwoGuns
Date: Jun 5, 2008 05:54

On Jun 5, 12:20 am, mariposas rand mair fheal yahoo.com>
wrote:
> In article <50re4454iqs5s85ur40rrv15uf89t3u...@4ax.com>, ZeD hotmail.com>
> wrote:
. . . > so prove to me that we would have even less crime
> if everyone carried firearms
>
I don't think the issue is that all law abiding citizens carry
firearms but that ALL law abiding citizens have the right to carry
firearms if , when and where they want.

DL
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Author: Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
Date: Jun 5, 2008 05:30

mariposas rand mair fheal wrote:
> In article
> <8ad1beef-a82d-4e8d-a62f-ce1b33445c58@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
> Jim Wilkins gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jun 5, 1:20 am, mariposas rand mair fheal yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> i live next door to one of the safest city
>>> with a population over 500 000 (san jose)
>>> i dont see anyone but peace officers carrying firearms
>>
>> Of course you don't see them, they're concealed.
>
> reports are the sheriff only issues a few concealed weapon permits a
> year

Only a hopelessly bored person would engage gun nuts.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries
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