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	<title><![CDATA[Request for referral: Green apt share, etc, to volunteer get out the  vote; DC]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Dear Fellow Members,<br><br>G'day.  James M Nordlund, info and a request for referral to Green<br>apt. share, etc., to volunteer to get out the vote, etc., for the<br>immanent presidential election, it was suggested to communicate with<br>you by a member, to discuss, only if you think there's a possibility<br>of any of the below taking place; from my recent email.  Right now,<br>I'm not in D.C., for, I was in Spring for 2 weeks, and Summer for<br>another 3 weeks, volunteering, without finding a place, though; with<br>the idea of relocating to have more effect on this election cycle,<br>etc..  Have you had experience with Greens relocating to D.C., etc.?<br><br>"I'm a Green volunteer looking to move to Wash., D.C., start, add to<br>Community Center (I have access to enough furniture for a multiple<br>floor one, $ 60,000. worth); do you have any ideas, contacts- I'm<br>disabled on a low fixed income, yet, do as much as I can with it, and<br>want to do more?"<br><br>Ciao, for now.<br><br>Matutinally Yours,<br><br>james m nordlund<br>
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	<title><![CDATA[&quot;ZERO&quot; to be broadcast on Russian State TV on 9/11, 2008]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Berlin, September 6, 2008<br><br>In Berlin, Germany a 9/11 event took place on Thursday and Friday this week.<br><br>Speakers were:<br>Giulietto Chiesa, an italian member of the EU Parliament<br>Jürgen Elsässer, journalist and author - Link<br>Andreas von Bülow, former Minister of Research and Technology in Germany<br>Jochen Scholz, former Lt Col Airforce<br>Mathias Bröckers, Journalist<br>Ekkehard Sieker, TV-Journalist<br>Eckart Spoo Editor of the magazine "Ossietzky"<br><br>The Italian documentary "Zero" was screened at the conference.<br><br>On Friday a press conference was held at the Government Press Conference building in Berlin.<br><br>Subject was the push for a new international investigation of the 9/11 attacks. Mr.Giulietto<br>Chiesa announced that the documentary "Zero" will be aired on Russia´s main TV-channel on<br>September 11, followed by an discussion with two US-journalists and two journalists from Russia.<br><br>The 9/11 event took place at the "Russian House" in downtown Berlin, in an packed auditorium in<br>front of almost 300 people. The Russian House was chosen after two other venues turned down<br>booking requests. In 2006 Humbold University had already canceled a planned presentation of the<br>documentary "Loose Change" with only two days notice to the organizers.<br><br>The event this year was organized by the newly launched magazine "Hintergrund"<br><br>The newsmagazine is available at german newsstands since Thursday this week and will be<br>published every 3 months.It features prominent authors who are covering international terror<br>events and their dramatic ramifications on current politics.<br><br><br><a href="http://www.911video.de/news/060908" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.911video.de/news/060908</a>/<br>
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	<title><![CDATA[September 11, 2008 &ndash; A Global Truth Movement Rises Up]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[September 11, 2008 – A Global Truth Movement Rises Up<br>by Carol Brouillet ( cbrouillet [at] <a href="http://igc.org" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">igc.org</a> )<br>Wednesday Sep 3rd, 2008 11:43 PM<br><br>     An overview of the many 9/11 Truth events taking place globally seven years after<br>September 11, 2001. From Europe to Australia, there will be rallies, marches, peaceful<br>protests, film screenings, and pressure on public officials to undertake a genuine investigation.<br><br><br>While the recent NIST (National Institute for Standards and Technology) report claimed “mystery<br>solved” that WTC 7, a 47-story steel structure, fell due to normal office fires--the first time<br>in history that a modern steel-framed high rise building collapsed for this reason--a global<br>9/11 truth movement is challenging NIST’s reasoning, examination of the evidence and political<br>agenda. In Europe, Australia, Canada and the United States rallies, marches, talks, concerts,<br>film festivals, and vigils are being planned. Richard Gage, AIA, founder of Architects and<br>Engineers for 9/11 Truth­ a well known critic of the latest NIST report--will speak at the 7th<br>annual 9/11 Truth Rally and March on September 6th in San Francisco. Gage will also speak at<br>the 4th annual 9/11 Film Festival, held at the Grand Lake Theater in Oakland on September 11th,<br>and in New York City the following day.<br><br>At the 9/11 Film Festival, the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance will present a variety<br>of films and speakers. The highlight of this year's films is the Italian documentary "Zero: An<br>Investigation into 9/11," which was shown in the EU parliament in February of this year.<br><br>People will be converging on New York for the Now or Never 2008 Fundraiser for First<br>Responders, street actions, vigil, conference, concert, film screenings… Nearly 30,000<br>signatures have also been gathered for the NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative to create a genuinely<br>independent Commission with subpoena power to investigate 9/11. Additional events, film<br>screenings, talks will be held in Washington, DC, Massachusetts, in cities and states across<br>the country, including Arizona where State Senator Karen Johnson and former governor Jesse<br>Ventura will echo the need for a real investigation.<br><br>In Brussels, on September 7th, hundreds of people from over a dozen countries are expected to<br>converge for a “United for Truth” peaceful protest to show solidarity with Americans for an<br>independent investigation of 9/11, and opposition to the wars, and the curtailment of civil<br>rights which has taken place throughout the world.<br><br>In London, there will be a 24 hour 7 days and 7 nights peaceful protest/vigil outside of the<br>American Embassy, demanding a real investigation of 9/11, and educating the public. As part of<br>the Portobello Film Festival, two 9/11 films will also be shown- “The Elephant in the Room” and<br>“Last Man Out.”<br><br>In Sydney, on September 11th there will be a large public meeting with speakers, followed on<br>September 12th by the premiere of “Shadowplay,” an Australian 9/11 Truth documentary , followed<br>on the 13th by a dinner and musical fund raiser for Truth Action Australia.<br><br>In Canada, a 9/11 Truth Tour was launched in August, which will culminate in a March on Ottawa.<br>Canadians petitioned their government on June 10th 2008:<br><br>We, the undersigned citizens of Canada draw the attention of the House to the following:<br><br>THAT, scientific and eyewitness evidence shows that the 9/11 Commission Report is a fraudulent<br>document and that those behind the report are consciously or unconsciously guilty of covering<br>up what happened on 9/11/2001. This evidence overwhelmingly supports the conclusion that World<br>Trade Center Towers 1, 2 and 7 were brought down by demolition explosives and that the official<br>theory of the towers collapsing from the airplanes and the ensuing fires is irrefutably false.<br><br>We further believe that elements within the US government were complicit in the murder of<br>thousands of people on 9/11/2001. This event brought Canada into the so-called "War on Terror,"<br>it changed our domestic and foreign policies for the worse, and it will continue to have<br>negative consequences for us all if we refuse to look at the facts.<br><br>THEREFORE, your petitioners call upon Parliament to:<br><br>(1) Immediately launch its own investigation into the events of 9/11/2001 on behalf of the 24<br>Canadian citizens murdered in New York City.<br><br>(2) Act lawfully on the findings of its own investigation by helping to pursue the guilty<br>parties in the international courts.<br>The marchers expect to arrive at Parliament Hill on September 11th and to get a response from<br>elected officials. They are prepared to stay in Ottawa until they get a satisfactory response<br>from their public servants. <a href="http://questioningwar-organizingresistance.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://questioningwar-organizingresistance.blogspot.com</a>/<br><br><br><a href="http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/09/03/18532779.php" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/09/03/18532779.php</a><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Old Washington DC pussies man bilge pumps for Freddie and Fanny.]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Where's that free market? <br><br>tec<br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Who And What Benefited From 9/11?]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLRcs02xkKY" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLRcs02xkKY</a><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Kuffars protest special treatment of Muslims at Swift plant,  Muslims riot]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[On Sep 7, 1:17 pm, simple.language.ya...@<a href="http://gmail.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>> <a href="http://source:http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022587.php" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">source:http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022587.php</a><br>><br>> A complaint by Somali workers earlier this week that they weren't<br>> getting early enough break times to accommodate religious fasting<br>> snowballed into worker protests at the JBS Swift & Co. plant Friday.<br>> Employees from both early and late shifts converged in the afternoon<br>> in front of the human resources office at the north Greeley plant.<br>><br>> About 100 employees, some of whom were supposed to be working,<br>> protested company officials accommodating Muslims by moving their<br>> break time to accommodate those fasting for Ramadan, a Muslim holy<br>> month. The company allowed Muslim workers to take their breaks about<br>> an hour earlier than normal to break their fasts.<br>><br>> The peaceful crowd milled about behind the plant gates signifying its<br>> frustration.<br>><br>> "They have no respect for the Spanish or white people," said Brianna<br>> Castillo, a Swift employee of four years. "Many times we are forced to<br>> pull extra count... I don't feel that is right."<br>><br>> Castillo, who is white, said every race was represented in the protest<br>> with the exception of Somalis. Castillo said employees are frustrated<br>> by what they feel is a double standard when it comes to other races<br>> and Somalis.<br>><br>> "Somalis are running our plant," Castillo said. "They are telling us<br>> what to do."<br>><br>> Swift security guards paced the parking lot helping to break up the<br>> crowds. Joann Lopez, who finished her morning shift, said she was<br>> threatened with her job if she didn't leave, which didn't happen to<br>> Somalis when they protested earlier in the week.<br>><br>> Lopez, who is Latino and Catholic, said she is upset because the new<br>> schedule forces the second shift to work more consecutive hours after<br>> their break.<br>><br>> "They are working four to five hours without a break and that's<br>> wrong," Lopez said. "This is hard work, and to go without a break, we<br>> feel it."...<br>><br>> The Greeley P.D. SWAT Team and many police officers had to come into<br>> the plant to stop the destruction by approximately 200 angry Muslims<br>> of tables, equipment, and helmets inside the cafeteria at about 7:30<br>> pm last night. My neighbor said that the medical department rendered<br>> treatment to one non-Muslim female worker who was assaulted during the<br>> melee.<br>><br>> The first Muslim demands came as Ramadan began on September 1. The<br>> plant employs about 2,000 workers. The majority of workers in the<br>> plant are of Latino descent. The Somali Muslims, my neighbor tells me,<br>> constitute a majority of the remaining minority number. They demanded<br>> that the union-contract mandated lunch break be moved from 9:00 pm to<br>> 7:30 pm.<br>><br>> When management moved the lunch break to 7:30 pm for two days, to<br>> accommodate the Ramadan Sharia demands, the majority of workers<br>> objected. This is covered pretty much within a racial framework in the<br>> Tribune story.<br>><br>> According to my neighbor, there was growing tension within the plant<br>> during the swing shift on Friday, 9-5-08. During the afternoon she<br>> walked through the plant at the request of management to help identify<br>> any Muslims who might be in distress from not eating anything during<br>> the day. She told me that there were Muslim men congregated in groups,<br>> that she was then asked to attend an urgent management meeting,<br>> wherein a decision was made to change the Friday lunch break to 8:00<br>> pm, in an attempt to keep everyone happy.<br>><br>> The announcement was made about the new schedule for the 8:00 pm lunch<br>> break. At 7:30 pm the Muslims, about 200 in number, walked off the<br>> job, went to the employee cafeteria and began to break tables and<br>> equipment. At that time my neighbor was walking back into her medical<br>> department. She heard the sounds of the violence and later saw the<br>> aftermath of the damage....<br><br>Let's start boycotting products from plants that employ third-worlders<br>to include<br>hispanics.<br><br>mitch<br><br><a href="http://www.wvwnews.net" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.wvwnews.net</a>/ Western Voices World News<br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Why did McCain dump his first wife and family?]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[In John McCain's acceptance speech, he stated that he had finally learned to<br>care about other people's welfare as a result of being imprisoned in the<br>Hanoi Hilton.  Yet, after he was released and had returned to the United<br>States, he callously abandoned his first wife, Carol, who desperately needed<br>his help.<br><br>When McCain first married Carol, she was tall, willowy and beautiful - very<br>much the beauty pageant type.  They appeared to be in love and McCain<br>adopted her two sons from a previous marriage.  Shortly after she bore him a<br>daughter, McCain volunteered for combat duty in Viet Nam.<br><br>We know the rest of that story, because McCain has recited every painful<br>detail of his imprisonment, over and over again.  What many people don't<br>know about is that Carol McCain was also in limbo for those six long years<br>of his imprisonment.  By all accounts, she was a good, faithful wife who was<br>forced to rear his children on her own while they waited for his release.<br><br>Three years before he was released, Carol McCain was in a terrible<br>automobile accident.  Her legs were badly shattered and her face was<br>disfigured.  As a result of his interest in helping the families of the<br>Missing In Action, Ross Perot personally paid tens of thousands of dollars<br>for her multiple surgeries.  They had to remove so much bone from her legs<br>that she is literally four inches shorter than she was before the accident.<br><br>Shortly after his return from Viet Nam, McCain began a series of adulterous<br>affairs that were so blatant his fellow officers were concerned about his<br>career.  He eventually ended up with Cindy McCain and filed for a marriage<br>license before he even had the decency to file divorce papers from his first<br>wife.<br><br>If McCain had learned to care for other people while he was in prison, why<br>did he abandon his wife and family after he returned?  Carol McCain blames a<br>mid-life crisis.  Others aren't quite so kind.  Here's Ross Perot's take on<br>it:<br><br>McCain is the classic opportunist. He's always reaching for attention and<br>glory,' he said.<br>'After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a<br>poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.'<br>Veteran's activist, Ted Sampley, is even less kind:<br>'When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind, he<br>started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew<br>it.<br>'Eventually he met Cindy and she was young and beautiful and very wealthy.<br>At that point McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.<br>'This is a guy who makes such a big deal about his character. He has no<br>character. He is a fake. If there was any character in that first marriage,<br>it all belonged to Carol.'<br><br>We all know McCain the hero - now it's time to know the real McCain.<br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Pray for Gridlock]]></title>
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