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	<title><![CDATA[Yanukovich: Georgia's action against South Ossetia is criminal]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.regnum.ru/english/1051188.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.regnum.ru/english/1051188.html</a><br><br>“To us, it is absolutely obvious that Russia was not inotiator of the<br>Georgian-Ossetian conflict,” head of the Party of Regions faction in<br>the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovich stated Sep 5 at a<br>press conference in Kiev, REGNUM correspondent reported.<br><br>“Russia's response to the provocative and criminal action of Georgia<br>was, of course, a very hard-line one. Perhaps, it was not foreseen by<br>Georgia, and possibly, it was foreseen. Georgia's decision to launch<br>war against South Ossetia, at night, by slaughter of civilians, is<br>criminal. Preserving integrity of Georgia by such means is impossible.<br>Attempts to set a task to eliminate an ethnos and annex territory have<br>to be condemned once and for all, condemned forever,” Yanukovich<br>stated.<br><br>“To meet this end, the issue of the use of double standards has first<br>to be solved. For the precedent accepted in the case of recognition of<br>Kosovo's independence actually triggered the conflict between Georgia<br>and South Ossetia. To stop this very dangerous trend now, an<br>extraordinary session of UN Security Council has to be held, at which<br>new rules have to be adopted, international laws that would, first of<br>all, ensure that double standards are not used. That is why our<br>reaction to the conflict was also intense, but it was due, first of<br>all, to the Georgia's aggression that was allowed against the South<br>Ossetian people. We are flatly against it,” the  Regions Party leader<br>pointed out.<br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Re: Sarah Palin's Not That Special]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[MFOgilvie <mattogilvie55@<a href="http://aol.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">aol.com</a>> wrote in<br>news:9089ceae-20ec-401e-be0c-e5d90ddf090e@<a href="http://z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com</a>: <br><br>> September 08, 2008<br>> Sarah Palin's Not That Special<br>> By Alicia Colon<br>> <br>> <br>> Feminists like Gloria Steinem who have never had children simply<br>> cannot imagine how mothers of large families cope.<br><br><br><br>    But we can take to heart all the parenting advice<br>doled out by Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh. After all, <br>THEY know what they are talking about.<br><br><br><br><br><br>> <br>> What Sarah Palin brings to the national scale is a glimpse into the<br>> lives of the real women of America. <br><br><br><br>     Yes, that is what we need in a president. Not someone who<br>knows how to how get a bill thru congress or negotiate a treaty<br>but someone who knows how to change a diaper. <br><br>     Are you people for real?<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[The false-flag anthrax investigation killed more innocent people than  the false-flag anthrax attack]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br>Newbies may ask:  "What is a false-flag investigation?"<br><br>A false-flag investigation is one in which the FBI protects the real<br>killers for national security reasons while harassing several innocent<br>people until one of them commits suicide so the case can be closed.<br><br><br>Anthrax Case Had Costs for Suspects<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/washington/10anthrax.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper&oref=slogin" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/washington/10anthrax.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper&oref...</a><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Day 11, Palin Press Conferences: 0]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br>She can dish it out, but she can't take it.<br>Get ready for the Palin 9/11 Pimporama.<br><br>    --bks<br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[OREO 09 08 08]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br><html><br><head><br><title>OREO 09 08 08</title><br></head><br><body><br><b><br><pre><br>`<br>`<br>OREO 09 08 08<br>`<br>`<br>Newsstories of interest:<br>`<br>** = Important  [in this edition: 1 ]<br>`<br>MH = Misleading Headline  [in this edition:  ]<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>1  DISORDER<br>`<br>`<br>Editorial | Too Generous<br>`<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/opinion/07sun3.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/opinion/07sun3.html</a><br>`<br>"Situations like the Massey Energy case create an un-<br>mistakable impression that justice is for sale."<br>`<br>WELL, OF COURSE!<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>When Academia Puts Profit Ahead of Wonder<br>`<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/technology/07unbox.html?ref=business&pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/technology/07unbox.html?ref=business&pagewanted...</a><br>`<br>"In academia’s continuing pursuit of profit, the wonder of<br>simple serendipitous discovery has been left on the curb."<br>`<br>Simple serendipitous discovery?<br>`<br>COPYRIGHT MUST BE ABOLISHED ROOT, BRANCH, AND SEED<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>Finally, It's At The Printer<br>`<br><a href="http://www.malcomlagauche.com/id1.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.malcomlagauche.com/id1.html</a><br>`<br>"I treat the U.S. involvement of Iraq as one ongoing<br>disaster for the Iraqi people from about 1987 until<br>today.<br>`<br>Many publications about Iraq treat Desert Storm as an<br>occurrence, then the embargo, then the March 2003 in-<br>vasion.  This is wrong.<br>`<br>They are all part of the ongoing dismemberment of the<br>nation."<br>`<br>Ongoing dismemberment?<br>`<br>SOCIOCIDE FROM DAY ONE<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>3  ASIA<br>`<br>`<br>THE BU$H PLAN (PALESTINE)<br>`<br>In Israel, era of mass immigration ends<br>`<br><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080906/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_dwindling_immigration" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080906/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_dwindling_immigration</a><br>`<br>"the influx that brought together more than 3 million<br>Jews from more than 100 countries following Israel's<br>creation in 1948 has dwindled to a trickle."<br>`<br>ALIYAH => YERIDAH => ?<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>THE BU$H PLAN (IRAQ)<br>`<br>___| MAJOR EXPOSE |___<br>`<br>Bob Woodward | Doubt, Distrust, Delay | The Inside Story<br>of How Bush's Team Dealt With Its Failing Iraq Strategy<br>`<br><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/06/AR2008090602691_pf.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/06/AR2008090602691_pf...</a><br>`<br>`<br>`<br>THE BU$H PLAN (AFGHANISTAN)<br>`<br>Editorial | Caught in the Cross-Fire<br>`<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/06/opinion/06sat1.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/06/opinion/06sat1.html</a><br>`<br>"unless the Pentagon comes up with a better strategy,<br>the United States and its allies may well lose the war."<br>`<br>The war?<br>`<br>THE SUPERPOWER'S DOUBLE-EDGED SOCIOCIDE<br>IN THE EMIRATE OF AFGHANISTAN<br>`<br>Double-edged?<br>`<br>SUPERPOWER SOCIOCIDE IS BOTH<br>`<br>WAR CRIMES AND PEACE CRIMES!<br>`<br>One of The Superpower's triumphs is to have created<br>and established a whole new category in international<br>law: SUPERPOWER PEACE CRIMES.<br>`<br>What better strategy can there be?<br>`<br>THE RESULTS:<br>`<br>"Afghans once looked on American troops as their libera-<br>tors, but far too many have come to see them as enemies."<br>`<br>"Pakistan’s political situation is extremely fragile, and<br>anti-American sentiment there is fierce."<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>Two NATO soldiers killed in eastern Afghanistan<br>`<br><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080906/wl_nm/afghan_violence_dc" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080906/wl_nm/afghan_violence_dc</a><br>`<br>"43 killed in August"<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>U.S. forces and Afghan police kill over 20 Taliban<br>[= MOW DOWN AFGHAN CIVILIANS]<br>`<br><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSISL7915820080907" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSISL7915820080907</a><br>`<br>"On Saturday, the Taliban abducted four Afghan [collabor-<br>ator] employees of a [Superpower] security firm in Maidan<br>Wardak province, on the main highway southwest of Kabul"<br>`<br>NOTE:<br>`<br>"In a [>] show of indignation over the [crossborder] raid,<br>[Pakistan] authorities blocked a major fuel supply route<br>for Western forces in Afghanistan, [the servile] Defence<br>Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar told Dawn Television.<br>`<br>Most fuel and other supplies for U.S. forces in Afghani-<br>stan are trucked through Pakistan, crossing the border at<br>two points, Torkham, near Peshawar, and Chaman to the<br>southwest.<br>`<br>The Chaman crossing, where supplies cross into the Afghan<br>south, was operating normally."<br>`<br>--From "Zardari wins Pakistan election" newsstory under<br>THE BU$H PLAN (PAKISTAN) below.<br>`<br>Chaman:<br>`<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaman" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaman</a><br>`<br>Torkham:<br>`<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torkham" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torkham</a><br>`<br>"Torkham lies on the most important supply route<br>for Western Forces in Afghanistan.  Pakistan has<br>used blocking supplies as a [>] bargaining chip,<br>for example as a reaction to Western Forces at-<br>tacking targets in Pakistan."<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>Divergent Accounts of Afghan Strike Raise Tension<br>`<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/world/asia/08afghan.html?hp=&pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/world/asia/08afghan.html?hp=&pagewanted=all</a><br>`<br>"Members of the Afghan [puppet] government investigation<br>commission said that the Americans were just covering up<br>the truth."<br>`<br>THE SUPERPOWER'S NATURE COMPELS IT TO<br>BE THE WORLD'S PREEMINENT LIAR STATE!<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>Canadian Soldier Killed [Sunday] on Patrol In Afghanistan<br>`<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/world/international-afghan-death.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/world/international-afghan-death.html</a><br>`<br>"seven wounded"; and<br>`<br>"Three Canadian soldiers were killed on Wednesday"<br>`<br>The newsstory reports:<br>`<br>"Canada's military presence in Afghanistan is not expected<br>to be an important issue in the [October 14 national elec-<br>tion] campaign."<br>`<br>DE-MOCK-RACY<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>THE BU$H PLAN (PAKISTAN)<br>`<br>Zardari wins Pakistan election<br>`<br><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSSP17223420080906?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&sp=true" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSSP17223420080906?feedType=RSS&feedName...</a><br>`<br>ELECTION:<br>`<br>"Members of the...[Pakistan] parliament and four<br>provincial assemblies voted"<br>`<br>REJECTION:<br>`<br>"bomb in Peshawar destroyed...police post"<br>`<br>See THE BU$H PLAN (AFGHANISTAN) | Item 3 above.<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>Unknown powder sent to US diplomats in Pakistan<br>`<br><a href="http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080907/D931SJL81.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080907/D931SJL81.html</a><br>`<br>THE SUPERPOWER'S NATURE COMPELS IT TO<br>BE THE WORLD'S PREEMINENT LIAR STATE!<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>INDONESIA<br>`<br>__SITUATION SUMMARY__<br>`<br>Price increases push US soy beyond reach of poor<br>`<br><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080906/ap_on_re_as/indonesia_soybean_curse" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080906/ap_on_re_as/indonesia_soybean_curse</a><br>`<br>"Over the past decade, Indonesia went from growing more<br>than half its soy to relying on the U.S. for 70 percent<br>of it."<br>`<br>"It is the same story for dozens of countries that came<br>to depend on richer nations for cheap food, only to find<br>themselves squeezed when prices start[ed] rising last<br>year."<br>`<br>*THIS* IS THE SUPERPOWER'S STARVATION WARFARE<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>MYANMAR<br>`<br>British, US embassies visited NLD (HQ) 24 times in August<br>`<br>Right column | Item 5<br>`<br><a href="http://www.myanmar.com/newspaper/nlm/index.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.myanmar.com/newspaper/nlm/index.html</a><br>`<br>DIRECTIVE<br>`<br>"National League for Democracy (HQ) is having contact<br>with American and British embassies in Yangon and fol-<br>lowing their directives.<br>`<br>AND<br>`<br>Mebaung village in Hpa-an Tsp sees bomb blast [Septem-<br>ber 6th]<br>`<br>Right column | Item 11<br><br>FOLLOWUP<br>`<br>"A bomb went off near the generator of the hydropower<br>generator on Hpa-an-Hlinebwe Road in Mebaung Village,<br>Hpa-an Township, Kayin State"<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>4 EUROPE<br>`<br>`<br>RUSSIAN FEDERATION<br>`<br>Opening Address at the Meeting of the State Council on<br>the Situation Around South Ossetia and Abkhazia<br>`<br><a href="http://www.kremlin.ru/eng/text/speeches/2008/09/06/1515_type82912type82913_206195.shtml" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.kremlin.ru/eng/text/speeches/2008/09/06/1515_type82912type82913_206195...</a><br>`<br>"We are meeting to discuss the new situation in the<br>world, created as a result of the Georgian aggression"<br>`<br>"The...tragedy clearly shows that in our era there are<br>reckless politicians whose actions represent a serious<br>threat to international order and stability."<br>`<br>"The events...demonstrated something else: Russia will<br>not allow anyone to compromise the lives and dignity<br>of its citizens"<br>`<br>"South Ossetia and Abkhazia have...begun to actively<br>build their statehood in this new environment.  There<br>is...need for efficient and targeted support in this<br>regard.  New states should set an example in the estab-<br>lishment of civil peace, national capabilities and<br>national harmony, as well as adherence to democratic<br>principles."<br>`<br>"After the 8th of August 2008 the world has changed.<br>I have already said that we were supported by hundreds<br>of millions of people.<br>`<br>However, we haven't heard words of support and under-<br>standing from those who, in the same circumstances,<br>pontificate about freedom of choice and national dig-<br>nity and the need to use force to punish an aggressor."<br>`<br>"these forces continue arming the Georgian regime,<br>including under the banner of humanitarian aid."<br>`<br>"We reaffirm our readiness for...the development of<br>neighbourly relations, relations which are based on<br>[>] real principles of international law."<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>SPAIN<br>`<br>Spanish minister backtracks on migrant visa plan<br>`<br><a href="http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080906/D9317RTG0.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080906/D9317RTG0.html</a><br>`<br>FROM:<br>`<br>"it did not make sense to keep recruiting foreign workers<br>when Spain has 2.5 million people unemployed."<br>`<br>TO:<br>`<br>"I must have said something wrong."<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>6  SUPERPOWER<br>`<br>`<br>Silver State Bank in Nevada is shut<br>`<br><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/05/AR2008090504266_pf.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/05/AR2008090504266_pf...</a><br>`<br>"11th failure this year of a federally insured bank."<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>7  $$$$<br>`<br>`<br>====<br>`<br>`<br>__WE ARE NOT, AND NEVER HAVE BEEN, CROOKS__<br>`<br>`<br>Loan Giant Overstated the Size of Its Capital Base<br>`<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/business/07fannie.html?ref=business&pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/business/07fannie.html?ref=business&pagewanted...</a><br>`<br>"deep concern among foreign investors that the com-<br>panies’ debt might not be repaid."<br>`<br>"among the most expensive rescues ever financed by<br>taxpayers."<br>`<br>`<br>News Analysis | A History of Public Aid During Crises<br>`<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/business/07bailout.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/business/07bailout.html</a><br>`<br>"Despite decades of free-market rhetoric..., Washington<br>has a long history of providing financial help to the<br>private sector"<br>`<br>DESPITE DECADES OF SUPERPOWER *S*<br>`<br>THE STATE = INSURANCE FOR CROOKS!<br>`<br>`<br>**  Long-Term Capital: It’s a Short-Term Memory<br>`<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/business/07ltcm.html?pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/business/07ltcm.html?pagewanted=all</a><br>`<br>"Long-Term Capital Management...and the rescue [which]<br>occurred 10 years ago this month."<br>`<br>`<br>US Government takes over mortgage giants<br>`<br><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080907/ap_on_bi_ge/mortgage_giants_crisis" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080907/ap_on_bi_ge/mortgage_giants_crisis</a><br>`<br>"a failure of either of them would cause great turmoil<br>in our financial markets here at home and [>] around<br>the globe"<br>`<br>`<br>Treasury and Federal Housing Finance Agency Action to<br>Protect Financial Markets and [duh] Taxpayers<br>`<br><a href="http://treasury.gov/news/index1.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://treasury.gov/news/index1.html</a><br>`<br>`<br>High & Low Finance | A Tangled Web With Many Raveled<br>Threads<br>`<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/business/08norris.html" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/business/08norris.html</a><br>`<br>__PAULSON'S DUH OF THE DAY__<br>`<br>"The new [!] Congress and the next [!] administration<br>must decide what role government in general...should<br>play in the housing market."<br>`<br>`<br>====<br>`<br>`<br>`<br>Oreo Archive:<br>`<br><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/O-r-e-o" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/O-r-e-o</a><br>`<br>`<br></pre><br></b><br></body><br></html><br><br>
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	<description><![CDATA["Kerr-PLOOOP!!" Huh?! Pappy, Pappy, What's That Sound?!!<br><br>It's OK, lil' libweenie. Don't be afraid. It's just the sound of <br>Moonnigger's poll numbers sliding down the crapper like a brown, slimy, <br>jug-eared turd.<br><br>Wave bye-bye to Moonnigger, lil' libweenie. He's going back where he came <br>from.<br><br>Hyeh, hyeh, hyehhh! <br><br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Republicans = Socialists? Mortgage crisis has Washington putting aside free-market ideology]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[Mortgage crisis has Washington putting aside free-market ideology<br><br>By Nelson D. Schwartz<br><br>Sunday, September 7, 2008<br>Despite decades of free-market rhetoric from Republican and Democratic <br>lawmakers, Washington has a long history of providing financial help to the <br>private sector when the economic or political risk of a corporate collapse <br>appeared too high.<br><br>The effort to save Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is only the latest in a series <br>of financial maneuvers by the government that stretch back to the rescue of <br>the military contractor Lockheed Aircraft and the Penn Central Railroad <br>under President Richard Nixon, the shoring up of Chrysler in the waning days <br>of the Carter administration and the salvage of the U.S. savings and loan <br>system in the late 1980s.<br><br>More recently, after airplanes were grounded because of the terrorist <br>attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Congress approved $15 billion in subsidies and <br>loan guarantees to the faltering airlines.<br><br>Now, with the U.S. government preparing to save Fannie and Freddie only six <br>months after the Federal Reserve Board orchestrated the rescue of Bear <br>Stearns, it appears that the mortgage crisis has forced the government to <br>once again shove ideology aside and get into the bailout business.<br><br>"If anybody thought we had a pure free-market financial system, they should <br>think again," said Robert Bruner, dean of the Darden School of Business at <br>the University of Virginia.<br><br>The closest historical analogy to the Fannie-Freddie crisis is the rescue of <br>the Farm Credit and savings and loan systems in the late 1980s, said Bert <br>Ely, a banking consultant who has been a longtime critic of the mortgage <br>finance companies.<br><br>The savings and loan bailout followed years of high interest rates and risky <br>lending practices and ultimately cost taxpayers roughly $124 billion, with <br>the banking industry kicking in another $30 billion, Ely said.<br><br>Even if the rescue of Fannie and Freddie ends up costing tens of billions of <br>dollars, the savings and loan collapse is still likely to remain the <br>costliest government bailout to date, said Lawrence White, a professor of <br>economics at the Stern School of Business at New York University.<br><br>"The S.& L. debacle cost upwards of $100 billion, and the economy is more <br>than twice the size today than it was in the late 1980s," he said. "I don't <br>think this will turn out to be as serious as that, when over 2,000 banks and <br>thrifts failed between the mid-1980s and mid-1990s."<br><br>Most of those losses were caused by the shortfall between what the <br>government paid depositors and what it received by selling the troubled real <br>estate portfolios it acquired after taking over the failed thrifts.<br><br>In the Chrysler case, Carter and lawmakers in states with auto plants helped <br>push through a package of $1.5 billion in loan guarantees for the troubled <br>carmaker, while also demanding concessions from labor unions and lenders.<br><br>While Chrysler is remembered as a major bailout, White says it was minor <br>compared with the savings and loan crisis or the current effort to shore up <br>Fannie and Freddie.<br><br>The government did not have to give money directly to Chrysler, and it <br>actually earned a profit on the deal because of stock warrants it received <br>when the loan guarantees were provided. At the time, Chrysler had a work <br>force of more than 100,000 people.<br><br>Still, Ely makes a distinction between the rescue of Fannie and Freddie and <br>the thrifts versus the aid packages for Chrysler and other industrial <br>companies. "They didn't have a federal nexus," he said. "They weren't <br>creatures of the federal government."<br><br>This effort is also different from the others because of the potential <br>fallout for the broader economy and especially the beleaguered housing <br>sector if it does not succeed.<br><br>Unlike a particular auto company or even a major bank like Continental <br>Illinois National Bank and Trust, which was bailed out in 1984, "we depend <br>on Fannie and Freddie for funding almost half of our mortgage market," said <br>Thomas Stanton, an expert on the two companies who also teaches at Johns <br>Hopkins University.<br><br>"The government," he added, "has many less degrees of freedom in dealing <br>with these companies than in the earlier bailouts."<br><br> <br><br><br>
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	<title><![CDATA[Moral, scientific and legal justification for labeling Robert Mueller  a terrorist, a terrorist protector, an outrageous liar, an Israeli operative,  an idiot and a PIG]]></title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<br><br>                            *oink*oink*<br>"I do not apologize for any aspect of the investigation.  It is<br>erroneous to say there were mistakes." -- Top FBI Pig<br><br>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br><br>FBI Director Robert Mueller's Anthrax Trail of Tears<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/washington/10anthrax.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper&oref=slogin" rel="nofollow" class="url" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/washington/10anthrax.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper&oref...</a><br> Jessica Kourkounis for The New York Times<br><br>When Perry Mikesell, a microbiologist in Ohio, came under suspicion as<br>the anthrax attacker, he began drinking heavily, family members say,<br>and soon died. After a doctor in New York drew the interest of the<br>F.B.I., his marriage fell apart and his practice suffered, his lawyer<br>says. And after two Pakistani brothers in Pennsylvania were briefly<br>under scrutiny, they eventually had to leave the country to find<br>work.<br><br>Steven J. Hatfill, a former Army researcher, was cleared in the case<br>and will receive $4.6 million from the government.<br>The Federal Bureau of Investigation’s path to Bruce E. Ivins, the Army<br>scientist who committed suicide late last month as federal officials<br>moved closer to indicting him for the 2001 anthrax letter attacks, was<br>long and tortuous. Before the investigators settled on Dr. Ivins — and<br>his defenders still say the F.B.I. hounded an innocent man to death —<br>they had focused on Steven J. Hatfill, another Army researcher, for<br>several years.<br><br>But along the way, scores of others — terrorists, foreigners, academic<br>researchers, biowarfare specialists and an elite group of Army<br>scientists working behind high fences and barbed wire — drew the<br>interest of the investigators. For some of them the cost was high:<br>lost jobs, canceled visas, broken marriages, frayed friendships.<br><br>At the Army biodefense laboratory in Frederick, Md., where Dr. Ivins<br>worked, the inquiry became a murder mystery, the cast composed of top<br>scientists eyeing one another warily over vials of lethal pathogens.<br><br>“It was not pleasant,” recalled Jeffrey J. Adamovicz, a former<br>official there. “There was a general sense of paranoia that they were<br>going to get somebody no matter what.”<br><br>Some critics fault the F.B.I.’s investigation as ignorant, incompetent<br>and worse. Representative Rush D. Holt, a New Jersey Democrat who was<br>a Princeton University physicist, said that the disclosures linking<br>Dr. Ivins to the crime notwithstanding, the inquiry was “poorly<br>handled” and “resulted in a trail of embarrassment and personal<br>tragedy.”<br><br>The bureau’s defenders, though, say it did what was necessary to track<br>down a dangerous killer.<br><br>“You do the best you can, and it’s not always pretty,” said Robert M.<br>Blitzer, a former director of the F.B.I.’s section on domestic<br>terrorism. “Here you have a bunch of people dead and several<br>diminished, and you’re charged with solving the crime. You try not to<br>step on people’s toes, but sometimes it happens.”<br><br>Over seven years, the anthrax investigators conducted nearly 100<br>searches and more than 9,000 interviews in the most complex criminal<br>case in bureau history. They hunted an attacker who, in September and<br>October 2001, had mailed anthrax-laden envelopes that killed 5 people,<br>sickened 17 others and threw the nation into a panic.<br><br>Early on, with more zeal than solid information, agents turned on<br>three Pakistani-born city officials in Chester, Pa. One, Dr. Irshad<br>Shaikh, was the health commissioner; his brother, Dr. Masood Shaikh,<br>ran the lead-abatement program. The third, Asif Kazi, was then an<br>accountant in the finance department.<br><br>Mr. Kazi was sitting in his City Hall office one day in November 2001<br>when F.B.I. agents burst in and began a barrage of questions.<br><br>“It was really scary,” Mr. Kazi recalled in an interview last week.<br>“It was: ‘What do you think of 9/11? What do know about anthrax?’ ”<br><br>Across town, an agent pointed a gun through an open window at Mr.<br>Kazi’s home while others knocked down the front door as his wife was<br>cooking in the kitchen. At the Shaikh brothers’ house, agents in<br>bioprotection suits began hunting for germ-making equipment and carted<br>away computers.<br><br>None of the three men had ever worked with anthrax. But for days, they<br>were on national television as footage of the searches ran on a video<br>loop and news announcers wondered aloud if they were the killers.<br><br>The men were cleared after it turned out that a disgruntled employee<br>had sought revenge by calling in a bogus tip. But for all three,<br>trouble followed. The Shaikhs’ path to citizenship was disrupted,<br>their visas ran out and both had to find work abroad, Mr. Kazi said.<br><br>Mr. Kazi, already a citizen, was searched and interrogated for as long<br>as two hours every time he traveled back from visiting his brother in<br>Canada. Only about a year ago was his name removed from a watch list,<br>allowing him to travel freely.<br><br>When Mr. Kazi heard that Dr. Ivins was said to be the culprit in the<br>attacks, he had only one request.<br><br>“We’d just like our names cleared,” Mr. Kazi said. “There’s no problem<br>for people who know us. But out in the community, someone might still<br>think, ‘Maybe these guys were guilty.’ ”<br><br>In late 2001, agents discovered that the germ used in the attacks was<br>not foreign in origin but a domestic strain. That prompted the F.B.I.<br>to focus mainly on scientists inside the United States. Casting a wide<br>net, the bureau sent a letter to the 30,000 members of the American<br>Society for Microbiology. “It is very likely,” it said, “that one or<br>more of you know” the attacker.<br><br>The bureau began looking at biodefense insiders like Mr. Mikesell, an<br>anthrax specialist who had worked in the 1980s and 1990s with Dr.<br>Ivins at the Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at<br>Fort Detrick, in Frederick. He had then joined Battelle, a military<br>contractor in Columbus, Ohio, that became deeply involved in secret<br>federal research on biological weapons.<br><br>Laura Predrick for The New York Times<br>Dr. Kenneth M. Berry, an emergency room physician from Wellsville,<br>N.Y., was a focus of the inquiry in August 2004.<br><br>Related<br>Doubts Persist Among Anthrax Suspect’s Colleagues (August 9, 2008)<br>Times Topics: AnthraxIn 2002, Mr. Mikesell came under F.B.I. scrutiny,<br>officials familiar with the case said. He began drinking heavily — a<br>fifth of hard liquor a day toward the end, a family member said.<br><br>“It was a shock that all of a sudden he’s a raging alcoholic,”<br>recalled the relative, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because<br>of family sensitivities.<br><br>By late October 2002, Mr. Mikesell, 54, was dead, his short obituary<br>in The Columbus Dispatch making no mention of his work with anthrax or<br>the investigation. “He drank himself to death,” the relative said.<br><br>Dr. Hatfill, who worked at Fort Detrick from 1997 to 1999, also drew<br>the investigators’ attention. He loved covert exploits and padded his<br>résumé, habits that intrigued F.B.I. agents and, not long after that,<br>reporters.<br><br>In June 2002, officials tipped off television stations that the bureau<br>would search Dr. Hatfill’s apartment, just outside the gates to Fort<br>Detrick. Later, F.B.I. agents told the woman he was living with at the<br>time that he was a murderer and warned that she could be charged as an<br>accomplice if she failed to tell all. At a teary press conference in<br>August 2002, Dr. Hatfill protested his innocence.<br><br>For at least a year, F.B.I. surveillance teams followed him — and in<br>one remarkable encounter, a car that was trailing him ran over his<br>foot. (Dr. Hatfill, not the agent, was given a ticket.)<br><br>But there was no arrest, and Dr. Hatfill, who said his career was<br>ruined, fought back, filing a series of lawsuits, including against<br>The New York Times. In June, long after the hunt had been narrowed to<br>Dr. Ivins, the government agreed to pay Dr. Hatfill $4.6 million. On<br>Friday, the Justice Department issued a statement exonerating him.<br><br>Another casualty was Kenneth M. Berry, an emergency room physician<br>with a strong interest in bioterrorism threats. In August 2004, agents<br>raided his colonial-style home and his former apartment in Wellsville,<br>a village in western New York, as well as his parents’ beach house on<br>the Jersey Shore.<br><br>In scenes replayed for days on local television stations, the<br>authorities cordoned off streets as agents in protective suits emerged<br>from the dwellings with computers and bags of papers, mail and books.<br><br>“He was devastated,” Dr. Berry’s lawyer at the time, Clifford E.<br>Lazzaro, said in an interview. “They destroyed his marriage and<br>destroyed him professionally for a time.”<br><br>By 2005, thanks to new genetic testing, the F.B.I. had traced the<br>anthrax in the letters to a single flask at Fort Detrick. Dr. Ivins<br>had created and controlled the batch of deadly germs. But more than<br>100 scientists potentially had access to the pathogens.<br><br>For decades, the researchers of Fort Detrick had worked to build<br>defenses against deadly germs used in war, mainly by creating new<br>vaccines. They considered themselves patriots. In the early days of<br>the anthrax investigation, the experts — including Dr. Ivins — threw<br>themselves into helping the F.B.I., working around the clock.<br><br>Increasingly, though, the scientists found themselves viewed as<br>potential culprits in the nation’s worst case of bioterrorism.<br><br>Dr. Adamovicz, the former Fort Detrick official, said the<br>bacteriological division, which eventually had about 100 people<br>including technicians and assistants, was like a family. But the<br>growing air of mutual suspicion caused conversations to become<br>stilted, even as some scientists became increasingly agitated and<br>isolated from friends and colleagues.<br><br>“It became a game to talk in platitudes without mentioning the<br>specifics,” Dr. Adamovicz said. “You had to.”<br><br><br>A least a dozen members of the division eventually were called to<br>testify before a grand jury. “We were unclear on whether we were all<br>suspects or whether there were specific suspects,” Dr. Adamovicz<br>recalled.<br><br><br>Related<br>Doubts Persist Among Anthrax Suspect’s Colleagues (August 9, 2008)<br>Times Topics: AnthraxThe air of growing distrust ended some<br>relationships. At one point, Dr. Ivins was advised by his lawyer to<br>stop speaking with Henry S. Heine, an anthrax colleague. Dr. Ivins was<br>led to believe that Dr. Heine might have raised questions about him.<br><br>“They implied that Hank was pointing the finger at him,” recalled W.<br>Russell Byrne, a retired Army doctor who once supervised Dr. Ivins.<br>“They told Bruce that ‘Hank Heine is not your friend.’ Then Bruce’s<br>lawyer told him not to talk to Hank anymore.”<br><br>And even Dr. Ivins, according to court documents, began pointing his<br>finger at specific colleagues as suspects.<br><br>Dr. Heine, who said he considered himself a close friend of Dr. Ivins,<br>confirmed that Dr. Ivins had been warned to stop speaking with him,<br>but Dr. Heine said he believed it was part of the F.B.I. strategy to<br>isolate friends from one another. He added that although he did appear<br>before the grand jury, he never pointed the finger at Dr. Ivins, and<br>he still believes that Dr. Ivins was not involved in the anthrax<br>letter mailings.<br><br>“I was Bruce’s big brother,” Dr. Heine said. “I needed to look out for<br>him. And they needed to separate us.”<br><br>Dr. Byrne, who did not know of Dr. Ivins’s history of deep<br>psychological problems that was disclosed by federal officials last<br>week, said he could see signs of the growing stress Dr. Ivins was<br>under as the investigation seemed to focus on him. One day, in March<br>2008, he showed up for a Sunday church service with a black eye.<br><br>“The F.B.I. been roughing you up?” Dr. Byrne recalled joking.<br><br>Last month, Dr. Ivins told an Army colleague that his experience of<br>F.B.I. pressure was similar to what Mr. Mikesell went through.<br><br>“Perry drank himself to death,” the colleague recalled Dr. Ivins as<br>saying some two weeks before he killed himself.<br><br>Federal officials say they are confident Dr. Ivins was responsible for<br>the anthrax attacks, even if his suicide means their case will not be<br>proved in court. And they reject criticism from lawmakers and others<br>about the conduct of the investigation and express no regret about<br>those who were caught up in it.<br><br>The F.B.I. director, Robert S. 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