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Author: Peter T. DanielsPeter T. Daniels Date: Jun 19, 2007 03:32
On Jun 19, 12:50 am, "Sancho Panza" xhotmail.com> wrote:
> The law enforcement focus is on filling the regular quotas and
> the vaunted Hercules exercises, and all they do is keep scores of officers
> and supervisors in their cars, burning gasoline and flashing one heckuva a
> lot of lights. Looks good for the tourists, though.
And somehow manages to keep the crime rate so low it's off the charts.
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Author: Phil KanePhil Kane Date: Aug 7, 2007 11:39
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:24:59 -0500, James Robinson 212.com>
wrote:
>I don't trust you, because it doesn't work. The US has 5%% of the world
>population, and 25%% of the prisoners. There's still lots of crime,
>particularly violent crime. If prisons worked, crime rates would be very
>low.
In plain language, a bozo sitting in a cell at Attica isn't going to
rob a 7-11 while he's there. The problem is that it works as a
deterrent for the inmate and only for the time of incarceration.
Unfortunately, there are plenty of replacements wandering the streets
who "know" that they are smarter than the one who got caught. Barring
reinstitution of Devil's Island, it's a revolving door.
--
"Stand Clear of the Closing Doors, Please"
Phil Kane - Beaverton, OR
PNW Milepost 755 - Tillamook District
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Author: rottenrotten Date: Aug 7, 2007 12:51
On Aug 7, 2:39 pm, Phil Kane wrote:> In plain language, a bozo sitting in a cell at Attica isn't going to
> rob a 7-11 while he's there. The problem is that it works as a
> deterrent for the inmate and only for the time of incarceration.
> Unfortunately, there are plenty of replacements wandering the streets
> who "know" that they are smarter than the one who got caught. Barring
> reinstitution of Devil's Island, it's a revolving door.
I'd say it's a strong deterrant, at least for normally law abiding
citizen. The thing about crime is that people have to learn to become
criminals, and they learn it from watching other people commit crimes.
Especially children.
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Author: Peter T. DanielsPeter T. Daniels Date: Aug 7, 2007 15:11
On Aug 7, 1:40 pm, jdoe aol.com> wrote:> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:10:46 -0700, "Peter T. Daniels"
>
> verizon.net> wrote:>>On Aug 7, 12:07 pm, rotten gmail.com> wrote:>
>>> What's odd is how badly society decayed after the 1960's. In nearly
>>> every measure the country has been worse since the 1960's. I wonder
>>> why that is?
>
>>Which measures would those be?
>
>>If you noted correctly that many measures have declined since the
>>1980s, the "why" is easy to identify: reaganomics and "the nine
>>scariest words."
>
> this is idiotic as usual, by every measuring stick you can imagine
> people in the US are enjoying a much better standard of living than
> they ever had. only losers like you haven't been able to improve their
> lifestyle ...
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Author: Joe the AromaJoe the Aroma Date: Aug 7, 2007 21:18
> So who are you disagreeing with, "rotten," who says the country is
> worse since the 1960s, or most Americans, who say the country is worse
> since reaganomics?
Eh? Where'd you see this survey. I mean, they voted for the guy twice. Then
they voted for his VP. He mustn't have been that bad.
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Author: BolwerkBolwerk Date: Aug 8, 2007 07:07
Joe the Aroma wrote:
>> So who are you disagreeing with, "rotten," who says the country is
>> worse since the 1960s, or most Americans, who say the country is worse
>> since reaganomics?
>
>
> Eh? Where'd you see this survey. I mean, they voted for the guy twice. Then
> they voted for his VP. He mustn't have been that bad.
He mustn't been that bad? They voted for the current guy twice. Oh,
wait. Once.
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Author: Peter T. DanielsPeter T. Daniels Date: Aug 8, 2007 08:03
On Aug 8, 10:07 am, Bolwerk gmail.com> wrote:> Joe the Aroma wrote:
>>> So who are you disagreeing with, "rotten," who says the country is
>>> worse since the 1960s, or most Americans, who say the country is worse
>>> since reaganomics?
>
>> Eh? Where'd you see this survey. I mean, they voted for the guy twice. Then
>> they voted for his VP. He mustn't have been that bad.
>
> He mustn't been that bad? They voted for the current guy twice. Oh,
> wait. Once.
Are you forgetting that Blackwell stole Ohio? As documented, and
currently being litigated, by Bobby Kennedy.
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Author: BolwerkBolwerk Date: Aug 8, 2007 08:43
Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> On Aug 8, 10:07 am, Bolwerk gmail.com> wrote:>> Joe the Aroma wrote:
>>>> So who are you disagreeing with, "rotten," who says the country is
>>>> worse since the 1960s, or most Americans, who say the country is worse
>>>> since reaganomics?
>>> Eh? Where'd you see this survey. I mean, they voted for the guy twice. Then
>>> they voted for his VP. He mustn't have been that bad.
>> He mustn't been that bad? They voted for the current guy twice. Oh,
>> wait. Once.
>
> Are you forgetting that Blackwell stole Ohio? As documented, and
> currently being litigated, by Bobby Kennedy.
Yes, I did forget that for a moment. It's kind of hard to fathom that
the United States really is ruled by an authoritarian junta.
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Author: rottenrotten Date: Aug 8, 2007 13:25
On Aug 8, 10:07 am, Bolwerk gmail.com> wrote:> Joe the Aroma wrote:
>>> So who are you disagreeing with, "rotten," who says the country is
>>> worse since the 1960s, or most Americans, who say the country is worse
>>> since reaganomics?
>
>> Eh? Where'd you see this survey. I mean, they voted for the guy twice. Then
>> they voted for his VP. He mustn't have been that bad.
>
> He mustn't been that bad? They voted for the current guy twice. Oh,
> wait. Once.
Huh? Reagan was elected in 1980 and then re-elected in 1984 with a
landslide. Bush the elder also won in a landslide in1988. The vote in
1993 was a split vote with a lot of Republicans going for Perot.
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Author: Peter T. DanielsPeter T. Daniels Date: Aug 8, 2007 14:33
On Aug 8, 4:25 pm, rotten gmail.com> wrote:> On Aug 8, 10:07 am, Bolwerk gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Joe the Aroma wrote:
>>>> So who are you disagreeing with, "rotten," who says the country is
>>>> worse since the 1960s, or most Americans, who say the country is worse
>>>> since reaganomics?
>
>>> Eh? Where'd you see this survey. I mean, they voted for the guy twice. Then
>>> they voted for his VP. He mustn't have been that bad.
>
>> He mustn't been that bad? They voted for the current guy twice. Oh,
>> wait. Once.
>
> Huh? Reagan was elected in 1980 and then re-elected in 1984 with a
> landslide. Bush the elder also won in a landslide...
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