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Author: turtoni
Date: Aug 19, 2008 22:56

"Zen asserts, as do other schools in Mahayana Buddhism, that all
sentient beings have Buddha-nature, the universal nature of inherent
wisdom (Sanskrit prajna) and virtue, and emphasizes that Buddha-nature
is nothing other than the nature of the mind itself. The aim of Zen
practice is to discover this Buddha-nature within each person, through
meditation and mindfulness of daily experiences. Zen practitioners
believe that this provides new perspectives and insights on existence,
which ultimately lead to enlightenment.

In distinction to many other Buddhist sects, Zen de-emphasizes
reliance on religious texts and verbal discourse on metaphysical
questions. Zen holds that these things lead the practitioner to seek
external answers, rather than searching within themselves for the
direct intuitive apperception of Buddha-nature. This search within
goes under various terms such as “introspection,” “a backward step,”
“turning-about,” or “turning the eye inward.”
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Re: Zen: Basis         


Author: ZerkonX
Date: Aug 20, 2008 06:29

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:56:06 -0700, turtoni wrote:
> Zen asserts

WRONG!! lol!!
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Re: Zen: Basis         


Author: turtoni
Date: Aug 20, 2008 09:07

On Aug 20, 9:29 am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:56:06 -0700, turtoni wrote:
>> Zen asserts
>
> WRONG!! lol!!

lol? anyway:

"The importance of Zen's non-reliance on written words is often
misunderstood as being against the use of words. However, Zen is
deeply rooted in both the scriptural teachings of the Buddha
Siddhārtha Gautama and in Mahāyāna Buddhist thought and philosophy.
What Zen emphasizes is that the awakening taught by the Buddha came
through his meditation practice, not from any words that he read or
discovered, and so it is primarily through meditation that others too
may awaken to the same insights as the Buddha."

HTHelps.
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Re: Zen: Basis         


Author: ZerkonX
Date: Aug 21, 2008 07:54

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:07:32 -0700, turtoni wrote:
>>> Zen asserts
>>
>> WRONG!! lol!!
>
> lol?

I understand what you are saying and agree. Just the use of words like
'assert'.. sort of a Zen joke. Like... "Zen asserts nothing".
> awakening taught by the Buddha came through his meditation practice,
> not from any words...

Zen is a Buddhism almost stripped of Buddha. One Zen saying goes "If you
met the Buddha, kill him!" 'Buddha' being a fixation of thought, a
coherent tangible, therefore the Buddha becomes the antithesis of the
(Zen) Buddha!! This is humor to me and what makes it even better is
that's what it is meant to be.

Anyway, no big deal. The subject is vastly interesting to me has been for
many years and I enjoy the intended humor in it very much.

Just don't do something, STAND THERE!!
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Re: Zen: Basis         


Author: ZerkonX
Date: Aug 21, 2008 08:16

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:07:32 -0700, turtoni wrote:
>>> Zen asserts
>>
>> WRONG!! lol!!
>
> lol?

I understand what you are saying and agree. Just the use of words like
'assert'.. sort of a Zen joke. Like... "Zen asserts nothing".
> awakening taught by the Buddha came through his meditation practice,
> not from any words...

Zen is a Buddhism almost stripped of Buddha. One Zen saying goes "If you
met the Buddha, kill him!" 'Buddha' being a fixation of thought, a
coherent tangible, therefore the Buddha becomes the antithesis of the
(Zen) Buddha!! This is humor to me and what makes it even better is
that's what it is meant to be.

Anyway, no big deal. The subject is vastly interesting to me has been for
many years and I enjoy the intended humor in it very much.

Just don't do something, STAND THERE!!
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Re: Zen: Basis         


Author: Shrikeback
Date: Aug 21, 2008 09:42

On Aug 21, 7:54 am, ZerkonX X.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:07:32 -0700, turtoni wrote:
>>>> Zen asserts
>
>>> WRONG!! lol!!
>
>> lol?
>
> I understand what you are saying and agree. Just the use of words like
> 'assert'.. sort of a Zen joke. Like... "Zen asserts nothing".
>
>> awakening taught by the Buddha came through his meditation practice,
>> not from any words...
>
> Zen is a Buddhism almost stripped of Buddha. One Zen saying goes "If you
> met the Buddha, kill him!" 'Buddha' being a fixation of thought, a
> coherent tangible, therefore the Buddha becomes the antithesis of the
> (Zen) Buddha!! This is humor to me and what makes it even better is
> that's what it is meant to be.
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Re: Zen: Basis         


Author: turtoni
Date: Aug 21, 2008 20:03

On Aug 21, 12:42 pm, Shrikeb...@gmail.com wrote:
> I always thought Zen was the closest form of Buddhism
> to philosophical Taoism.  I also thought it was the least
> religious.  I assume Nietzsche was thinking of Zen when
> he said he wouldn't slander Buddhism with the epithet
> "religion," since it was closer to mental hygiene.

Agreed.

"Zen" is a "good" math of philosophy.

Of course i'm too lazy to pursue it within my material world.

Mybad.
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