On Aug 15, 2:02Â pm, Pop Fly gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 14, 6:22Â pm, "Theresa McCarty" qx.net> wrote:
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>> Â Â One cannot "be" dead. One may experience dying [Bummer!], however.
>> Â Â Consider "Poor Joe" ["Oklahoma!" "...poor Joe is dead...it's Summer and
>> we're runnin' out of ice."].
>> Â Â What happened to Joe's intimate subjective self? Ya know, that 'thingy'
>> that is the "somebody at home" inside your head. Of course, that 'thingy' is
>> an artifact of Joe's genetics and socialization and does not exist without
>> them.
>> Â Â Nevertheless, that (naked) 'subjectivity' is 'identical' to everyone
>> else's [I submit.].
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> Interesting statement. Doesn't feel right to me. I'd say a squirrel
> has a naked subjectivity and I doubt it's identical to mine. My wife's
> or son's would be more similar but not identical.
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> True or not, I can't see any plausible way to prove it.
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>> Â Â How curious that after 13.6 billion years of Cosmic evolution, Joe's
>> "...at home" is considered singular, unique, lost forever, and "won't happen
>> again".
>> Â Â True, Joe's somatic form is going bad because of the lack of ice, and
>> that somatic form is, indeed, all there is of Joe.- Hide quoted text -
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Other than to yourself, which is what the whole trip is about.
No great sage ever suggested to "know thyselves". Through others you
only see reflections.
Even some scientists are conjecturing that what we may be looking at
in the heavens, is a rahter large holographic projection.
Look to the seer, not the seen makes even more sense.
BOfL