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Author: Jorge Cruz RodriguezJorge Cruz Rodriguez Date: Jul 7, 2008 18:58
Is celebrity culture a tool, a cause, an intended product, or
an epigone of oncoming totalitarianism?
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Author: ZerkonXZerkonX Date: Jul 8, 2008 05:14
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:58:18 -0700, Jorge Cruz Rodriguez wrote:
> Is celebrity culture a tool, a cause, an intended product, or an epigone
> of oncoming totalitarianism?
I think this is a very interesting question.
On the one hand 'celebrity' is age old and an off-shoot of hero worship.
It is also, as it's best, a cultural celebration, or, 'one of US did
that'.
It has devolved into, as you say, a product. People are famous for being
made famous. Famous people are paid to make things or other people famous.
It is a powerful economic and political tool.
Totalitarianism? I can not see it being a natural outcome. Maybe you do.
Can you explain this a little?
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Author: ImmortalistImmortalist Date: Jul 8, 2008 18:58
On Jul 7, 6:58 pm, Jorge Cruz Rodriguez yahoo.com> wrote:> Is celebrity culture a tool, a cause, an intended product, or
> an epigone of oncoming totalitarianism?
...humans have difficulty recognizing and dealing with TV and movies
and radio, they have a persistent illusion bias, that when they see a
person with their eyes their mind biaes them to think the person is
actually in the same room. Kinda like the visual illusion where there
are two images in one but we have to force our attention to see one
since we seem to automatically see the other. the human brain may have
difficulty comprehending entities and situations that did not exist in
the ancestral environment, and a remote celebrety culture is one of
them...
The Savanna Principle is a theory about the evolutionary roots of the
human brain. ...it asserts that the environment that molded the human
brain through natural selection is drastically different than...
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Author: Laughing JackLaughing Jack Date: Jul 8, 2008 19:39
On Jul 7, 9:58 pm, Jorge Cruz Rodriguez yahoo.com> wrote:> Is celebrity culture a tool, a cause, an intended product, or
> an epigone of oncoming totalitarianism?
Jacque says that it is a pallative amusement for wage slaves, an
economic generator of something for essentially nothing, a means to
distract-divert attention away from serious issues, a means of
prevention of individual thought...
I believe Baudrillaud called it a "Soft" Stalinism of sorts.
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Author: Day BrownDay Brown Date: Jul 8, 2008 20:03
Immortalist wrote:
> The Savanna Principle is a theory about the evolutionary roots of the
> human brain. ...it asserts that the environment that molded the human
> brain through natural selection is drastically different than the
> world humans currently live in. This disparity between what man was
> designed to do and what he currently can do leads to a host of
> societal difficulties... [this view] rejects the view of the human
> mind as tabula rasa [a blank slate that anything can be written on],
> and avers instead that it is content rich and biased. The human brain,
> and all of its psychological mechanisms, are adapted to the EEA
> (environment of evolutionary adaptedness) and are therefore biased in
> favor of viewing and responding to the world as if it were still the
> EEA. The psychological mechanisms we possess in our brain today are
> still the same psychological mechanisms that we possessed in the EEA,
> just as our hand and pancreas are still the same as they were 10 000
> years ago. The human brain may have difficulty comprehending entities
> and situations that did not exist in the ancestral environment,
German and Swedish studies of Gypsies and Saami support you. They have
all the usual minority statistics: high rates of crime, drug & alcohol
abuse, divorce, and low rates of income and education. They notice the ...
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Author: *Anarcissie**Anarcissie* Date: Jul 9, 2008 06:13
On Jul 8, 11:03 pm, Day Brown daybrown.org> wrote:> Immortalist wrote:
>> The Savanna Principle is a theory about the evolutionary roots of the
>> human brain. ...it asserts that the environment that molded the human
>> brain through natural selection is drastically different than the
>> world humans currently live in. This disparity between what man was
>> designed to do and what he currently can do leads to a host of
>> societal difficulties... [this view] rejects the view of the human
>> mind as tabula rasa [a blank slate that anything can be written on],
>> and avers instead that it is content rich and biased. The human brain,
>> and all of its psychological mechanisms, are adapted to the EEA
>> (environment of evolutionary adaptedness) and are therefore biased in
>> favor of viewing and responding to the world as if it were still the
>> EEA. The psychological mechanisms we possess in our brain today are
>> still the same psychological mechanisms that we possessed in the EEA,
>> just as our hand and pancreas are still the same as they were 10 000
>> years ago. The human brain may have difficulty comprehending entities
>> and situations that did not exist in the ancestral environment,
>
> German and Swedish studies of Gypsies and Saami support you. They have ...
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Author: FlasherlyFlasherly Date: Jul 9, 2008 07:23
On Jul 7, 9:58 pm, Jorge Cruz Rodriguez yahoo.com> wrote:> Is celebrity culture a tool, a cause, an intended product, or
> an epigone of oncoming totalitarianism?
Soft Marxism or a vulgar religion for the masses works at the least
common denominator, which is technologically indistinguishable from
the overall status quo. The same dynamics engineering and science...
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Author: Day BrownDay Brown Date: Jul 9, 2008 19:48
*Anarcissie* wrote:
>> And of course, the modern world is based on the notion of private
>> ownership of resources. The Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese also had very
>> similar yeoman farmer communities, and they likewise adapt well to the
>> modern world.
>
> But today the yeoman is a sucker. He may own his little
> homestead; the state and gentrification can take it away in
> a moment. Most likely he has to go to work in an office or
> factory where he owns and controls nothing.
Sure, there have been many eras of exploitation in Europe and East Asia.
And just as many times when the power elites got too corrupt and the
whole system collapsed. There've been 10 Chinese Dynasties over the
course of the last 2500 years.
They have a lotta history; they read a lotta history, they still never
got it. The Mandarins never know there's a problem til the bricks in the
palace wall start flying over it.
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Author: Michael PriceMichael Price Date: Jul 9, 2008 21:06
On Jul 8, 11:58 am, Jorge Cruz Rodriguez yahoo.com> wrote:> Is celebrity culture a tool, a cause, an intended product, or
> an epigone of oncoming totalitarianism?
I don't think it's anything but a natural response to the laziness
of consumers of
information. Those who decide what to listen to could easily spend
their days
listening to freedomainradio.com, they...
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Author: Laughing JackLaughing Jack Date: Jul 10, 2008 11:07
On Jul 9, 9:13 am, "*Anarcissie*" gmail.com> wrote:> On Jul 8, 11:03 pm, Day Brown daybrown.org> wrote:
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>>> Immortalist wrote:
>>> The Savanna Principle is a theory about the evolutionary roots of the
>>> human brain. ...it asserts that the environment that molded the human
>>> brain through natural selection is drastically different than the
>>> world humans currently live in. This disparity between what man was
>>> designed to do and what he currently can do leads to a host of
>>> societal difficulties... [this view] rejects the view of the human
>>> mind as tabula rasa [a blank slate that anything can be written on],
>>> and avers instead that it is content rich and biased. The human brain,
>>> and all of its psychological mechanisms, are adapted to the EEA
>>> (environment of evolutionary adaptedness) and are therefore biased in
>>> favor of viewing and responding to the world as if it were still the
>>> EEA. The psychological mechanisms we possess in our brain today are ...
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