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Author: KingOfTheApesKingOfTheApes Date: Jun 20, 2008 09:49
(a good question here is, "Are the Christians who do what they preach
good?" or there's no such thing?)
Well, I emphasize "goes to church" because good Christians shouldn't
be driving SUVs, particularly when they don't pay attention to what
they are doing. It's not mentioned and she got away without any
charges, but chances are she was on the damn phone. I assure you that
cyclists are not that hypocrite. They are either good Christians or
Atheists!
Here's a summary...
The Bronco, police say, hit a shiny gray and black Schwinn mountain
bike, killing its 12-year-old rider, Breanna Slaughter-Eck, a Hoover
sixth-grader on her way home.
And so ended the last day of school, the promise of summer shattered
for two families.
"I feel so bad. I'm so so sorry, it's as if it happened to me," said a
shaken De Marin, 31, as her husband gently guided her inside their
home just hours after the fatal collision.
She had just returned from church where she had gone to pray - and
seek solace.
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Author: KenKen Date: Jun 20, 2008 12:07
On Jun 20, 9:49Â am, KingOfTheApes yahoo.com> wrote:
Well she had go n get forgiven for it, didn't she?
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Author: KenKen Date: Jun 20, 2008 12:11
On Jun 20, 9:49Â am, KingOfTheApes yahoo.com> wrote:
Not only was the driver of a Ford Bronco that fatally struck a 12-year-
old girl unlicensed, but San Jose police say she is also an illegal
immigrant, renewing the debate over whether undocumented people should
be allowed to apply for driver's licenses.
The revelation that Adriana Fierro De Marin, 31, is in the country
illegally struck yet another chord with the family of Breanna
Slaughter-Eck, still reeling from the loss of the Hoover Middle School
sixth-grader.
"I'm worried that she just might flee now and walk away from all
this," said Joe Castro, the man who raised Breanna for the last four
years. For her part, Breanna's mother simply wants justice.
Breanna was biking home from Hoover on June 12, her last day of
school, when a Ford Bronco making a left turn slammed into her. The
crash is still under investigation and no charges have been filed.
But Breanna's death and the disclosure by authorities that Fierro De
Marin is an undocumented immigrant and unlicensed driver highlights
one of the more controversial topics lingering in the state Capitol.
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Date: Jun 20, 2008 17:39
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:11:49 -0700 (PDT), Ken aol.com>
wrote:
>Not only was the driver of a Ford Bronco that fatally struck a 12-year-
>old girl unlicensed, but San Jose police say she is also an illegal
>immigrant, renewing the debate over whether undocumented people should
>be allowed to apply for driver's licenses.
Isn't a driver's license a form of documenation?
Would it ultimately make any difference if she was killed by a
licensed legal immigrant?
Would any policy guarantee that no unlicensed drivers would exist?
Whatever the policy is, bad drivers and tragedy exist, that will not
change.
Maybe testing and licensing illegal immigrants would improve their
driving, and fewer tragedies would occur.
If it's lives you want to save, maybe you are on the wrong side of the
issue.
just a thought.
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Author: KingOfTheApesKingOfTheApes Date: Jun 21, 2008 07:55
On Jun 20, 8:39Â pm, jemcd <1> wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:11:49 -0700 (PDT), Ken aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Not only was the driver of a Ford Bronco that fatally struck a 12-year-
>>old girl unlicensed, but San Jose police say she is also an illegal
>>immigrant, renewing the debate over whether undocumented people should
>>be allowed to apply for driver's licenses.
>
> Isn't a driver's license a form of documenation?
> Would it ultimately make any difference if she was killed by a
> licensed legal immigrant?
> Would any policy guarantee that no unlicensed drivers would exist?
> Whatever the policy is, bad drivers and tragedy exist, that will not
> change.
> Maybe testing and licensing illegal immigrants would improve their
> driving, and fewer tragedies would occur.
> If it's lives you want to save, maybe you are on the wrong side of the
> issue.
> just a thought. ...
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Author: KingOfTheApesKingOfTheApes Date: Jun 21, 2008 14:50
On Jun 21, 12:39 pm, "Timothy 1:4a" gmail.com> wrote:
> I would not buy an SUV - my reasons are environmental. But "evil" is
> way overboard!
>
> Still, use this story to bludgeon SUVs if you like - they are
> dangerous and it's good if people are made aware about that. It is on
> topic.
>
> But people should not hitch their hobby horses to this tragedy. The
> fact that the driver is Christian and went to church to recover is
> irrelevant, and so is the fact that she is an illegal alien (another
> chip-on-the-shoulder that is riding high on this issue).
I could have said it's a "sin," but then you don't believe in sins if
you don't believe in God. Evil is a good word, I think.
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Author: KingOfTheApesKingOfTheApes Date: Jun 22, 2008 10:54
OK, I put this together, which may help determine who's in the
jungle...
"Evil is a broad term used to indicate a negative moral or ethical
judgment, often used to describe intentional acts that are cruel,
unjust, or SELFISH. Evil is usually contrasted with good, which
describes intentional acts that are kind, just, or unselfish."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil
(SUVs here mean Supersized Unnecessary Vehicles, the necessary ones or
the smaller ones are OK)
There's been some controversy whether SUVs are evil or not, so it's a
good thing we put it vote. Nobody can deny the SELFISH element in
them, but some may be reluctant to use a strong word such as terrorism
(used for slavery or terrorism, for example), but then they want to
feel "good" about riding a bike. Bikes are friendly to the environment
and people, and get you in shape. Well, in order for something to be
good, something else must be evil. It's like yin and yang. And how
about cars? Well, they are OK. They are simply necessary when
distances get longer.
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Author: KingOfTheApesKingOfTheApes Date: Jun 22, 2008 11:05
OK, I put this together, which may help determine who's in the jungle
(even under Christian camouflage)...
"Evil is a broad term used to indicate a negative moral or ethical
judgment, often used to describe intentional acts that are cruel,
unjust, or SELFISH. Evil is usually contrasted with good, which
describes intentional acts that are kind, just, or unselfish."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil
(SUVs here mean Supersized Unnecessary Vehicles, the necessary ones or
the smaller ones are OK)
There's been some controversy whether SUVs are evil or not, so it's a
good thing we put it to vote. Nobody can deny the SELFISH element in
them, but some may be reluctant to use a strong word such as evil
(used for slavery or terrorism, for example), but then they want to
feel "good" about riding a bike. Bikes are friendly to the environment
and people, and get you in shape. Well, in order for something to be
good, something else must be evil. It's like yin and yang. And how
about cars? Well, they are OK. They are simply necessary when
distances get longer.
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Author: TTTT Date: Jun 23, 2008 05:55
jemcd wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:11:49 -0700 (PDT), Ken aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Not only was the driver of a Ford Bronco that fatally struck a 12-year-
>> old girl unlicensed, but San Jose police say she is also an illegal
>> immigrant, renewing the debate over whether undocumented people should
>> be allowed to apply for driver's licenses.
>
> Isn't a driver's license a form of documenation?
> Would it ultimately make any difference if she was killed by a
> licensed legal immigrant?
> Would any policy guarantee that no unlicensed drivers would exist?
> Whatever the policy is, bad drivers and tragedy exist, that will not
> change.
> Maybe testing and licensing illegal immigrants would improve their
> driving, and fewer tragedies would occur.
> If it's lives you want to save, maybe you are on the wrong side of the
> issue.
> just a thought. ...
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Author: KenKen Date: Jun 23, 2008 07:28
On Jun 22, 10:54Â am, KingOfTheApes yahoo.com>
wrote:
> (SUVs here mean Supersized Unnecessary Vehicles, the necessary ones or
> the smaller ones are OK)
I drive a '91 S-10 Blazer which only gets maybe 14 around town but
once got 23 on a long freeway drive.
The old 450SL gets even worse mileage, but here's a thought.. before
the government mandated the change in our gas it had way better
mileage.
After the change to newer cleaner burning gas here in Calif, the
mileage dropped 10-20%% even with a rebuilt engine and new injectors
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