On Jun 30, 12:57 pm, "tooly"
bellsouth.net> wrote:>> On Jun 29, 2:54 pm, Topaz
hotmail.com> wrote:>>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:12:18 -0400, "tooly"
bellsouth.net>
>>> wrote:>
>>>>I find fascism interesting. You nihilists have convinced me there is
>>>>'nothing'. We exist...and there is no purpose, no direction, no true
>>>>reason...beyond what we create ourselves for ourselves.
>
>>> There is a purpose. We are supposed to continue our evolution. We
>>> started out living in caves and figuring out that fire can benifit us.
>>> We went a long way from there, but this is not the end of it. Our
>>> purpose is to carry on the evolution.
>
>> You seem to have missed the evidence that Nazism failed the big test
>> of evolution - it failed to survive. The Russians proved themsleves
>> superior to Germans on the field of Kursk 1943, the British proved
>> themselves superior to Germans over the skies of England in 1941.
>> The evolutionary lesson the allies learned during those days was that
>> human society is a lesson in co-operation, not in conflict and that
>> mixed races do far better than so called "pure" races. Every ape troop
>> thrives on co-operation - we are no different in this respect. Nazi
>> policy is anti-thetical to progress through sharing.
>> Mixed races (bastard races as the germans styled them) work better as
>> there is a greater variety of ideas, and greater resistence to
>> disease. The Americans resisted the disease of Nazism, as did the
>> British.
>
>>> This is wrong. King Arthur said "Might For Right". The people who are
>>> right and good should have power. And that is National Soclialism.
>
>> Duh! no it fucking is not twat! National Socialism restiricts power to
>> one man who claims to represent a minority whose "racial"
>> characteristics are defined by a narrow measure. This is a guarantee
>> of failure as it alienates the good from the group by arbitrary
>> qualities.
>
>> Can I just point out that King Arthur is a fictional character.
>
>>>>Nihilism lifts morality from our shoulders and leaves us at the mercy of
>>>>jungle law...that rawness of nature whereby the mechanics are simply
>>>>predatory...and the "strong rule the weak while the clever rule the
>>>>strong".
>>>>Fascism takes this jungle law a step further and pleads it's case as a
>>>>matter of function, whereby, the strong are MEANT to lead by no other
>>>>reason
>>>>than they are STRONG [or the clever meant to rule simply by the means of
>>>>their cleverness]. We have to admit, they have a point...unless we can
>>>>justify something beyond this jungle law in a predatory world built upon
>>>>food chains. I've said all along that God had a real function to our
>>>>maintenance and repair as humans.
>
>>> This is all wrong. The law of the jungle is anarchy, and that is a
>>> leftist liberal concept. The ones were are right and good should also
>>> be strong and clever. There may be others who are also strong and
>>> clever but these are foes who need to be put down.
>
>>>>Given all that Sir Fred, Immort, Tron, turtoni, and most other
>>>>alt.philosophy posters argue, essentially to disavow all morality for a
>>>>materialistic reality [brain chemistry etc]...they would all disavow
>>>>that
>>>>they also side with fascism 'ex post facto', as a matter of where their
>>>>nihilism ultimately leads. They would vehiemently deny it of course.
>>>>There
>>>>is a term...the 'useful fool'...whereby the devil [symbolic] may wile
>>>>his
>>>>ways through the arrogance and hubris of human ignorance. What is so
>>>>funny
>>>>is these great minds who post in these parts would not see their own.
>
>>>>anyway...fascism interests me...as I'm relieved of my morality by you
>>>>guys,
>>>>ha...and watch on as the devil [again, symbolic usage here] rises in us
>>>>all
>>>>[of course there is no such thing we all know]; nazis' and fascists
>>>>notwithstanding.
>
>>> This is totally wrong and you have watched far to many Hollywood
>>> movies:
>
>>> There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
>>> Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
>>> Hollywood.
>
>> The Jews are also running the war on terror, the de-stabilisation of
>> the Middle East and the continued occupation of Palestine.
>
>> Control of the entertainment media is the most important area to
>> control hearts and minds - Goerbells knew that very well.
>
>> You are a cock Topaz. This book PROVES that Jews are far superior to
>> little wankers like you. Having survived thousands of years of
>> oppression and prejudice has bred a very hardy and intelligent group.
>> You philosophy is being applied on an international scale from the US
>> to Isreal and the Jews are winning at your own game. But then you are
>> too stupid to see the irony.
>
> Why do you have to enter into ad hominem attacks? It does show how we are
> 'conditioned' to react to certain viewpoints however [for the mindless non
> thinkers anyway]. My question, where does this conditioning come from?
Ad Hominems are okay when accurate. Topaz is a wanker. My other
objections make demonstrate his failure to see his own contradictions.
>
> Here's another question:
> Do Jews seem to invoke decline in the national domains of the states within
> which they congregate in numbers, while they themselves, wrest the more
> lucrative social positions where they remain unaffected by this decline [for
> the most part]? [What do we observe?]
I don't think you could ever demonstrate this empirically. Where Jews
have prospered so have their host countries. We observe the USA as the
most powerful economically for the greatest period following WW2 -
where Jews have been left to thrive with the least persecution.
>
> At this point, I could care less, one way or another. My own culture and
> nation is so scattered to the wind in mindless disarray as to never be
> organized again.
Which is?????
Thusly, I am quite certain western civilization is
> finished...except for the long flush of course. Of course, you will argue
> some 'state' still exists...perhaps as some evolution or some such. But
> mine...is already destroyed. I make that assessment by comparison as
> explained in other posts on this thread [via pre and post civil rights
> observations].
I very much doubt your words, unless you have chosen to align yourself
to some "culture" which has no basis empirically.
>
> I've been trying to figure out WHO was behind this monstrocity for some time
> now...and I keep coming back to Jewish ownership in the media, and
> disproportionate influence in law, finance, and education. Cultural
> marxism is a good candidate as well, but far more 'non-point' source, which
> makes it harder to verify and substantiate. Not many liberals, even as they
> tend toward marxist ideals, would define themselves as marxist today. That
> leaves the Jews...who probably have meant no harm BTW.
You will have to state the "monstrosity" of which you speak otherwise
I am unable to help in this respect.
>
> As a white gentile, I feel used and abused these days; used to conquer a
> world, civilize it...and now made to bow out to allow the third world to
> rise. I see my own annihilation on the horizon...and yet, have bought into
> Jewish moralization so completely, that I go to my grave peacefully, LOL
> [through mysengenation and cultural emaciation]. Let's all face
> it...caucasian genes are recessive in defining the racial dominance of the
> mixes, especially with black Africans. Does that matter? Is that
> important?
Now you demonstrate a keen lack of understanding of genetics.
"All caucasian genes are recessive" shows a complete ignorance of the
idea of recessiveness. There are no "Caucasian" genes. The idea is
beyond the limits of epistemology, a fantasy.
>
> Well, we are all led to THINK by our conditioning that this SHOULD not
> matter...and how convenient that caucasians are taught to simply lay down
> and die out [oh, in about a 100 years or so...too far into the future to
> really get upset about...YET; unless your brain is more than a pissants and
> you can extrapolate today's policies through time to see where all this
> concludes].
>
You speak gibberish!
> I say RACE matters...and though probably should NOT be of a high
> coefficient, is being made into THE issue of the new century [eventually].
There are no races.
