On Mar 28, 9:45Â pm, Day Brown
hughes.net> wrote:> On Mar 28, 5:33 pm, lorad...@
cs.com wrote:> We had greater voice for the (s)people until Ronnie Reagan showed up
>> backed by his business boys..
>> And it's been downhill (legislatively speaking) since then.
>
> Agreed. But now I think we have a better understanding of the American
> Malaise that allowed Raygun in. Turns out, you cant raise kids on
> sugar cereals, junkfood, and soda... and still expect them to grow up
> to be rational voters. And by Carter's time, the first generation so
> raised was voting.
>
> Neurological studies reveal how trace minerals, like iron, copper,
> manganese, zinc... and the micro-nurtrients plants absorb from the
> natural biota in the soil empower the neurotransmitters to lay down
> new pathways during learning and childhood mental development. You may
> grow up ok anyway, but lotsa folks have not.
>
> Agribusiness doses the land with Nitrogen, Phophorus, & Potash.
> [that's a period] All the trace minerals, which were formerly
> replentished with compost and manure have been leached out long ago.
> Jared Diamond, in "Collapse" notes how 80%% of global agribusiness
> grows just five crops: corn, wheat, rice, soybeans, and cotton. On
> ground that's been dosed for max tonnage, not nutrition.
>
> What passes for civilization has been marked by monoculture. Corn for
> the Maya, Wheat for the Romans, rice for the Chinese. And at some
> point, the ground gets played out, the general level of intelligence
> declines, neurotic violence increases, and the whole system
> collapses.
>
> Bog body stomachs and the bone middens of obscure rural villages and
> Chacolithic tels reveals Native Europeans ate 100 different wild
> plants and animals- which provided the trace minerals. Gibbon notes
> how the emperors which grew up in Rome, (eg, Caligula, Nero, Commodus)
> were disasters, but those who rose out of the ranks, had grown up on
> family farms out in the boonies, like Trajan, were competent
> administrators. Seems there really is something to the idea of a
> president who grew up in a log cabin.
[...]
> Autism is one indicator. The national rate is 1:155. A school nurse
> here is a friend so I asked how many autistic kids she had in her
> school. "None." Went on to say there was only one in the whole
> district of 4000 farm kids. Surfing, I discovered the autism rate for
> the Amish is 1:15,000. You'd think people would notice, but this would
> reflect on what their parents did to them, and what they are doing to
> their own kids, and they neurotically do not want to think about it.
>
> The flushing you refer to is a likely consequence. An economic crisis
> may wake people up to reality. But it could also result in systemic
> collapse and anarchy. Mass famine.
[...]
>>> And if you are rational, then you'll see where they are, and vote with
>>> your feet.
>
>> Where to? Why would anyone let them ?
>> Why should anyone let them into other countries owned by other people?
>> (or were you suggesting that the dissolution of nations by globalists
>> was a good thing for disenfranchised citizens?)
>
>> Instead - for those not inclined to travel or invite travelers- they
>> would probably vote with their guns... and let the globalists get
>> lost.
>
> YMMV. It depends on rapid the decline is. Depends on what your skill
> set is, and whether you see soon enuf where life would be better. Some
> of the collapses Diamond wrote about happened over nite. The decline
> of the Greenland Norse took decades.
The more rapid the collapse the more likely violence.
> It was 175 years from the time a Roman emperor actually ruled from
> Rome until the city fell. The smart money had gotten out long before,
> much of it moving to Constantinople, and when the Barbarians took the
> city, Rome was an empty shell. Likewise things got bad for
> Constantinople when first Moslem, and then Mongol hegemony was imposed
> on the Silk Road and taxes stripped out all the profits.
>
> But by the 12th century, Kiev was a boom town. From Astrakhan on the
> Volga delta to Greenland, the Vikings had another mercantile empire
> that traded freely with both the Byzantine and Islamic empires, Â and
> lived damn well doing it.
>
> The trick regarding the hegemony of the transnats, is to be below the
> radar, and not produce anything representing portable wealth like
> gold. The Slavs understood this, dispersing thru the forests of
> Eastern Europe. Their villages were hard to find, the women all fled
> into the forest when armies came, so there wasnt any gold, and there
> wasnt any pussy.
>
> The Slavs were famous for turnips. Unlike grain, you can bury the
> turnips you cant carry when you flee to hide out. Whole armies were
> starved out in this way, most notably, Napoleon in Russia. You dont
> read about this shit in History books cause the Power Elites dont want
> you to know.
Wow... from globalism to micronutrients...to kievan turnips.. ok..
Are you sure you are not a keywork triggered expert AI system?
At any rate Rome fell because of population density pollution.
Nero himself stated that could no longer endure the masses of garlic
breathed people before he burned the place down.
And the pollution was political as well as material.
Nero was crazy.. and Caligula was even more crazy - whether or not
they had been raised in the latin equivalents of log cabins or not.
Two poisons ensured this; imperial rule and the metal lead.
Roma was doomed once it junked its Republic; it had drunk the poison
political koo-aid. Once the government turned into an imperatorship,
it lost the support of its power base.. and had to replace them with
money seeking sycophants and merchants. Continued claim to power in
turn, depended less and less upon the public - and more and more upon
the wealthy and private armies.. very similar to what is going on
today.
The material kool-aid it drink was delivered in the form of the lead
pipes that the roman upper class used to deliver their water... it
made their kids into idiots, made their adults stupid or crazy, and it
sterilized the ruling class families that had established the state in
the first place.
The declining founding familes were overwhelmed by the influx of
foreigners that were allowed into the state by the emperor - who no
longer neded any public support other that supplied by wealthy
sycophants and his private army.
And he got little support from the newly imported public anyway... not
much left to respect.. They cheered the execution of each new
revolving emperor by the next replacement.
As far as I am concerned Rome should have been put out of its misery
by the barbarians at the same time Julius got his... A lot of people
would have been spared from Roman globalism.
PS: Slavic women escaping from mongols?
I don't think so..Russia was under Tartar rule for 400 years.
There is a limerick that russian neighbors use to tease russians:
As though a russian was speaking - 'Ya tatarii ya tatarii, ya ne
russkie chelovek !'
