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>"Therion Ware" city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:57:27 +0500, "Reality" yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>

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>>>"Therion Ware" city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
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>>>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 06:57:42 -0800 (PST), ComandanteBanana
>>>> yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>Since I know Christians often live by that motto of "Ignorance is
>>>>>Strength" (to quote Orwell), and don't ask themselves the hard
>>>>>questions, I'm bringing this question to the fore,
>>>>>
>>>>>"Will Christians who kill in battle be saved?"
>>>>>
>>>>>I say, you may find yourself locked out of Heaven --and cooking in hot
>>>>>oil. Pun intended, not cooking oil, but "oil" like in Iraq. If I were
>>>>>you, I'd even tear off those bumper stickers that say, "We support our
>>>>>troops." Just to be safe... ;)

>>>>
>>>> As I understand it, in the Protestant tradition at least, the sole
>>>> criteria for being saved is holding belief in Jesus Christ as ones
>>>> Lord and Saviour.
>>>>
>>>> As as been frequently observed, "Christans aren't perfect, they're
>>>> 'just' forgiven".
>>>>
>>>> Which presumably gave rise to the phrase "love God and do what you
>>>> like".

>>>
>>>29:2 Do men think that they will be left alone on saying, "We believe",
>>>and
>>>that they will not be tested?
>>>29:3 We did test those before them, and God will certainly know those who
>>>are true from those who are false.
>>>29:4 Do those who practise evil think that they will get the better of Us?
>>>Evil is their judgment!
>>>( Quran )
>>>

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>>
>> Ah.
>>
>> One assertion with no supporting evidence against another assertion
>> with no supporting evidence.
>>

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>[2:164] In the creation of the heavens and the earth, the alternation of
>night and day, the ships that roam the ocean for the benefit of the people,
>the water that GOD sends down from the sky to revive dead land and to spread
>in it all kinds of creatures, the manipulation of the winds, and the clouds
>that are placed between the sky and the earth, there are sufficient proofs
>for people who understand.
>
> [30:20] Among His proofs is that He created you from dust, then you became
>reproducing humans.
>[30:21] Among His proofs is that He created for you spouses from among
>yourselves, in order to have tranquility and contentment with each other,
>and He placed in your hearts love and care towards your spouses. In this,
>there are sufficient proofs for people who think.
>[30:22] Among His proofs are the creation of the heavens and the earth, and
>the variations in your languages and your colors. In these, there are signs
>for the knowledgeable.
>[30:23] Among His proofs is your sleeping during the night or the day, and
>your working in pursuit of His provisions. In this, there are sufficient
>proofs for people who can hear.
>[30:24] Among His proofs is that He shows you the lightning as a source of
>fear, as well as hope, then He sends down from the sky water to revive a
>land that has been dead. In these, there are sufficient proofs for people
>who understand.
>[30:25] Among His proofs is that the heaven and the earth are standing at
>His disposal. Finally, when He calls you out of the earth, one call, you
>will immediately come out.
>[30:46] Among His proofs is that He sends the winds with good omen, to
>shower you with His mercy, and to allow the ships to run in the sea in
>accordance with His rules, and for you to seek His bounties (through
>commerce), that you may be appreciative.