Over the last few weeks, Australia has been transfixed by a story of a
man leaving his three-year-old daughter at the train station. It was
later discovered that, prior to doing this, the man had murdered his
wife.

The man in question is not just any man; he is a 50-something Chinese
tai chi grandmaster. His wife was in her 20s, and he had previously
been violent toward her. He completed the violence prevention course,
and he was free to be with his wife and children. Then he killed his
wife and abandoned his daughter.

That a Tai Chi grandmaster would do such a thing, is a scandal enough
in its own right. But what is more scandalous still is the utter
failure of Australian family court system to stop family violence
before it became lethal. While much of the feminism has been focusing
on trivial and wrongful causes, real harm and real atrocity goes on
undredressed. Indeed in Australia it is getting worse by the minute.

William you really don't know what you're talking about.

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On Oct 11, 4:12 am, Jester's mummy wrote:

OK, fine, I messed up about that.

However there's gender crap going on in Australia like you wouldn't
believe, and what I wrote about Parental Alienation is true even if
this guy was from New Zealand.

On Oct 10, 10:02 pm, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:

Can you site the source for this statement?
"Meanwhile it is becoming not allowed for woman
and children to tell the truth. Even though 98%% of children's
accusations of abuse against their fathers have been demonstrated to
be true, .."

On Oct 12, 11:26 am, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:

Check the family court record. There'll be plenty of examples where
PAS was used to take children away when children or mothers reported
violence.

Fathers do that just as much. I've known many examples of fathers
manipulating children against their mothers, and doing so in extremely
damaging, deceptive, manipulating and destructive ways.

On Oct 12, 12:14 pm, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:

"reported violence" that's the rub isn't it? People do lie, and exagerate in
court. Obviously, if the Court didn't "believe" them and there was
sufficient evidence to support the father and his defence used the notion of
PAS, which is deemed in itself to be an "abuse of the children", then it may
be best to accept that the Court got it right. There is a legal notion of
"appeal" so it's not like storm troopers were removing the children by edict
without any reasonable opportunity for a defense in a Court of Law.

On Oct 15, 3:10 pm, "Sean" blah.com.au> wrote:

With pleasure.
Here are some of the links.

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/backgroundbriefing/stories/2007/1847340.htm
Kim Oates: We only found 2-1/2%%. 2-1/2%% were false allegations, and
then when we looked at those, 1%% of the allegations that a parent...

snipped reply for brevity. thanks for the pov.