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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Aug 13, 2008 16:45
They are very useful when some are confronted with a truth that
threatens their comfort zone.
Just assuming for a minute, that the conspiracy theories re 9/11 were
true regarding the involvment of the authorities, a good logical
argument would be "it would be impossible to keep a lid on such an
activity".
Put that alongside a hypothetical that the populus 'were' able to be
convinced. The outcome would be unthinkable.
A situation greater than rejecting such conspiracies would eventuate.
We have a 'group' built in safety mechanism that works instinctively
on a priority system. Easier to accept that terrorism is more an
ethnic characteristic, than a 'human' one.
Hitler was the first 'leader' to use the electronic media, and was
remarkably effective at mobilising a country, consisting of people
just like us (as a child , I learned to hate the Germans, never having
met any...I got over it when I was about 9;-)...
In case you havnt noticed, the power of the media has grown slightly
since then., but many of our leaders still 'pray to their secret
friend' while using it.
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Author: ErrolErrol Date: Aug 14, 2008 02:10
On Aug 14, 1:45 am, "bigflet...@ gmail.com" gmail.com>
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> They are very useful when some are confronted with a truth that
> threatens their comfort zone.
>
Hang on their one moment. Wasn't it you that said truth is subjective?
How could a subjective truth threaten one's comfort zone? :-)
I am having a tough time getting a handle on what you are saying. Is
it about the psychology of conspiracy theorists, terrorism,
charismatic leaders, their use of media, the nature of media itself,
or random thoughts as they play across your mind?
Sheesh
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Author: bigfletch8bigfletch8 Date: Aug 14, 2008 08:11
On Aug 14, 7:10 pm, Errol gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 14, 1:45 am, "bigflet...@ gmail.com" gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> They are very useful when some are confronted with a truth that
>> threatens their comfort zone.
>
> Hang on their one moment. Wasn't it you that said truth is subjective?
> How could a subjective truth threaten one's comfort zone? :-)
Glad top see you are taking notice. Nowhere did I say it affects my
comfort zone.
You may have also read my point suggesting that beliefs are simply a
collaboration of subjective veiws. Easier to disbelieve something
beyond an individuals capacity, by introducing the pink elephant to
the disbelief.
> I am having a tough time getting a handle on what you are saying. Is
> it about the psychology of conspiracy theorists, terrorism,
> charismatic leaders, their use of media, the nature of media itself,
> or random thoughts as they play across your mind?
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Author: NicNic Date: Aug 16, 2008 01:02
On 14 Aug, 00:45, "bigflet...@ gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:
> They are very useful when some are confronted with a truth that
> threatens their comfort zone.
>
> Just assuming for a minute, that the conspiracy theories re 9/11 were
> true regarding the involvment of the authorities, a good logical
> argument would be "it would be impossible to keep a lid on such an
> activity".
>
> Put that alongside a hypothetical that the populus 'were' able to be
> convinced. The outcome would be unthinkable.
> A situation greater than rejecting such conspiracies would eventuate.
> We have a 'group' built in safety mechanism that works instinctively
> on a priority system. Easier to accept that terrorism is more an
> ethnic characteristic, than a 'human' one.
>
> Hitler was the first 'leader' to use the electronic media, and was
> remarkably effective at mobilising a country, consisting of people
> just like us (as a child , I learned to hate the Germans, never having
> met any...I got over it when I was about 9;-)... ...
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Author: NicNic Date: Aug 16, 2008 02:28
I mean...almost if not everyone I know has a soul mate?
somebody to tell their hopes and dreams to.. had/have a
shoulders to cry on perhaps in times of worse. Maybe I'm
a little too emotionally retarded, or have not had that kind
of effort paid to me for my welfare? so the 'priority system'
of group dynamics won't always work with everyone I guess...
and not everyone is part of a group designed with the purpose
to terrorise, and while I do understand that dynamics bring
people together to collude unify & bond, some children will
always be excluded? elderly, disabled, homeless amongst
others, & for no purpose.
these sorts of people are also excluded from some group
welfare support dynamics as well...although they can never
be classless citizens....and I am thinking that, well, with
break down of family and societal units in modern ways of life,
(divorces, separations from loved ones, transient populations etc)
there are those who retire quietly in disillusionment and horror
at the lack of simple honest reciprocal affection in their lives.
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