That in itself, is a powerful statement against the reality of the
spiritual aspect of man.

No room for "knowing" amongst the intellectual elite...(with few
exceptions of course)

The reason is very simple. Science is in the business of "looking at".
Spirituality (for definition purposes...authentic self)...is about
where one is looking from... The oserver, not the observed.

Imagine having your observation of life defined by epistemological
standards. You then hear from somebody you totally trust about their
'spiritual' (NOT religious...) experience.Not only do you trust their
honesty, but are aware of their superior intelligence.

What proof would be needed to share their perception?

Bear in mind, that the masters have told us that everybody reaches a
state of self awareness in their own unique way.

Add to that, the growing awareness of the metaphysics of quantum
projection (applicable to beliefs also), and you can see why believers
need confirmation. Knowing does not project such images.

BOfL

On Jan 28, 9:51 am, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
wrote:

Thread title:

"Why the ultimate goal of science is only to find a "theory"of
everything."

Nearly right Brian, "everythings" include ideas and theories, the goal
of science is to explain matter, not things which therefore includes
ideas and theories.

Shucks Brian, what would science use as the standard to confirm as
fact, or to reject as fiction their theories of theories and ideas?
Further theories and ideas? about what? more theories and ideas? of
what? theories and ideas? about what? other theories and ideas? Hows
god?

You're sounding very Kantian and or mystical when theories about
theories based on theories are used to validate theories about
theories.

Only matter makes a scientist's theory and ideas matter.

On Jan 27, 7:51 pm, "bigflet...@gmail.com" gmail.com>
wrote:

On Jan 28, 10:11 am, Ed earthlink.net> wrote:

Allow me to introduce yourself to you then, or are you saying that you
have made a mistake in saying that you have never met someone who has
never made a mistake?

Michael Gordge

Why the ultimate goal of science is only to find a "theory"of
everything

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http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/

On Jan 27, 8:27 pm, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:

I have never met anyone who was always right, myself included. I'm
not sure I want to.

Ed

On Jan 28, 12:47 pm, Ed earthlink.net> wrote:

On Jan 28, 11:27 am, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:

How easy it is to get tied up in knots, semantically. The source of
most humor.

BOfL

On Jan 28, 11:10 am, Michael Gordge xtra.co.nz> wrote:

Their goal.

Heard any news on how they "explain matter"?.