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Why some Americans choose to live elsewhere         


Author: chazwin
Date: Nov 14, 2006 09:45

The UK "enjoys" less than 1000 murders per year.
There are around 12 homicides due to guns in every 10,000,000
population.

The US is proud to have 30,000 deaths from firearms alone. Strangely
murder stats only record 17,000. Presumably the others are suicides,
accidental, other killings and unsolved crimes.

There is more to it than the crime but the crime stats from Europe are
a reflection of many attitudes that people have for each other and the
places they live in.
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Re: Why some Americans choose to live elsewhere         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Nov 14, 2006 11:34

chazwin wrote:
> The UK "enjoys" less than 1000 murders per year.
> There are around 12 homicides due to guns in every 10,000,000
> population.
>
> The US is proud to have 30,000 deaths from firearms alone. Strangely
> murder stats only record 17,000. Presumably the others are suicides,
> accidental, other killings and unsolved crimes.
>
> There is more to it than the crime but the crime stats from Europe are
> a reflection of many attitudes that people have for each other and the
> places they live in.

This statement might make us wonder how to create a standard which
could, when satisfied, ensure that we will have found the relatively
safer place.
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Re: Why some Americans choose to live elsewhere         


Author: chazwin
Date: Nov 14, 2006 12:15

Immortalist wrote:
> chazwin wrote:
>> The UK "enjoys" less than 1000 murders per year.
>> There are around 12 homicides due to guns in every 10,000,000
>> population.
>>
>> The US is proud to have 30,000 deaths from firearms alone. Strangely
>> murder stats only record 17,000. Presumably the others are suicides,
>> accidental, other killings and unsolved crimes.
>>
>> There is more to it than the crime but the crime stats from Europe are
>> a reflection of many attitudes that people have for each other and the
>> places they live in.
>
> This statement might make us wonder how to create a standard which
> could, when satisfied, ensure that we will have found the relatively
> safer place.
>
> If criteria are the standards, measures, or expectations used in making
> an evaluation and/or verification, what should exist and specifies the ...
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Re: Why some Americans choose to live elsewhere         


Author: Immortalist
Date: Nov 14, 2006 12:52

chazwin wrote:
> Immortalist wrote:
>> chazwin wrote:
>>> The UK "enjoys" less than 1000 murders per year.
>>> There are around 12 homicides due to guns in every 10,000,000
>>> population.
>>>
>>> The US is proud to have 30,000 deaths from firearms alone. Strangely
>>> murder stats only record 17,000. Presumably the others are suicides,
>>> accidental, other killings and unsolved crimes.
>>>
>>> There is more to it than the crime but the crime stats from Europe are
>>> a reflection of many attitudes that people have for each other and the
>>> places they live in.
>>
>> This statement might make us wonder how to create a standard which
>> could, when satisfied, ensure that we will have found the relatively
>> safer place.
>>
>> If criteria are the standards, measures, or expectations used in making ...
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Re: Why some Americans choose to live elsewhere         


Author: chazwin
Date: Nov 14, 2006 13:05

Immortalist wrote:
> chazwin wrote:
>> Immortalist wrote:
>>> chazwin wrote:
>>>> The UK "enjoys" less than 1000 murders per year.
>>>> There are around 12 homicides due to guns in every 10,000,000
>>>> population.
>>>>
>>>> The US is proud to have 30,000 deaths from firearms alone. Strangely
>>>> murder stats only record 17,000. Presumably the others are suicides,
>>>> accidental, other killings and unsolved crimes.
>>>>
>>>> There is more to it than the crime but the crime stats from Europe are
>>>> a reflection of many attitudes that people have for each other and the
>>>> places they live in.
>>>
>>> This statement might make us wonder how to create a standard which
>>> could, when satisfied, ensure that we will have found the relatively
>>> safer place.
>>> ...
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Re: Why some Americans choose to live elsewhere         


Author: BernardZ
Date: Nov 14, 2006 13:40

In article <1163526315.377891.139840@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
chazwyman@yahoo.com says...
>
> The UK "enjoys" less than 1000 murders per year.
> There are around 12 homicides due to guns in every 10,000,000
> population.
>
> The US is proud to have 30,000 deaths from firearms alone. Strangely
> murder stats only record 17,000. Presumably the others are suicides,
> accidental, other killings and unsolved crimes.
>
> There is more to it than the crime but the crime stats from Europe are
> a reflection of many attitudes that people have for each other and the
> places they live in.

Is Europe a fair place to compare the US figures too, considering that
so many Americans are from non European backgrounds?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-
capita

I suppose we could play the game of who you compare to whom.
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Re: Why some Americans choose to live elsewhere         


Author: zinnic
Date: Nov 15, 2006 08:03

BernardZ wrote:
> In article <1163526315.377891.139840@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
> chazwyman@yahoo.com says...
>>
>> The UK "enjoys" less than 1000 murders per year.
>> There are around 12 homicides due to guns in every 10,000,000
>> population.
>>
>> The US is proud to have 30,000 deaths from firearms alone. Strangely
>> murder stats only record 17,000. Presumably the others are suicides,
>> accidental, other killings and unsolved crimes.
>>
>> There is more to it than the crime but the crime stats from Europe are
>> a reflection of many attitudes that people have for each other and the
>> places they live in.
>
> Is Europe a fair place to compare the US figures too, considering that
> so many Americans are from non European backgrounds?
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Re: Why some Americans choose to live elsewhere         


Author: chazwin
Date: Nov 15, 2006 08:48

BernardZ wrote:
> In article <1163526315.377891.139840@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
> chazwyman@yahoo.com says...
>>
>> The UK "enjoys" less than 1000 murders per year.
>> There are around 12 homicides due to guns in every 10,000,000
>> population.
>>
>> The US is proud to have 30,000 deaths from firearms alone. Strangely
>> murder stats only record 17,000. Presumably the others are suicides,
>> accidental, other killings and unsolved crimes.
>>
>> There is more to it than the crime but the crime stats from Europe are
>> a reflection of many attitudes that people have for each other and the
>> places they live in.
>
> Is Europe a fair place to compare the US figures too, considering that
> so many Americans are from non European backgrounds?
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Re: Why some Americans choose to live elsewhere         


Author: chazwin
Date: Nov 15, 2006 08:53

zinnic wrote:
> BernardZ wrote:
>> In article <1163526315.377891.139840@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
>> chazwyman@yahoo.com says...
>>>
>>> The UK "enjoys" less than 1000 murders per year.
>>> There are around 12 homicides due to guns in every 10,000,000
>>> population.
>>>
>>> The US is proud to have 30,000 deaths from firearms alone. Strangely
>>> murder stats only record 17,000. Presumably the others are suicides,
>>> accidental, other killings and unsolved crimes.
>>>
>>> There is more to it than the crime but the crime stats from Europe are
>>> a reflection of many attitudes that people have for each other and the
>>> places they live in.
>>
>> Is Europe a fair place to compare the US figures too, considering that
>> so many Americans are from non European backgrounds?
> ...
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Re: Why some Americans choose to live elsewhere         


Author: zinnic
Date: Nov 15, 2006 12:08

chazwin wrote:
> zinnic wrote:
>> BernardZ wrote:
>>> In article <1163526315.377891.139840@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
>>> chazwyman@yahoo.com says...
>>>>
>>>> The UK "enjoys" less than 1000 murders per year.
>>>> There are around 12 homicides due to guns in every 10,000,000
>>>> population.
>>>>
>>>> The US is proud to have 30,000 deaths from firearms alone. Strangely
>>>> murder stats only record 17,000. Presumably the others are suicides,
>>>> accidental, other killings and unsolved crimes.
>>>>
>>>> There is more to it than the crime but the crime stats from Europe are
>>>> a reflection of many attitudes that people have for each other and the
>>>> places they live in.
>>>
>>> Is Europe a fair place to compare the US figures too, considering that
>>> so many Americans are from non European backgrounds? ...
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