On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:16:21 -0700, Ben Goren trumpetpower.com>
wrote:
>default wrote:
>
>> Leon Hoeneveld wrote:
>>> default wrote:
>>>
>>>>> But I think when all kinds of collectives are gone the
>>>>> individuals will start to make groups again, implement rules
>>>>> of community, and start all over again. Warmth-seeking is in
>>>>> our nature.
>>>>
>>>> Don't try to make it more complicated than it is. Life is
>>>> simple, people can screw anything up, period.
>>>>
>>>> Be good, help your neighbor, love and appreciate what you have
>>>> - and throw out the TV, radio and "newspapers."
>>>>
>>>> Don't think too much about it - just embrace the philosophy,
>>>> grow and if you can help others.
>>>
>>> The secret of succes. If that's what you're after of course.
>>
>> Sure. The marketeers want to create needs and wants - but do we
>> really need all that stuff? "Just say no" to consumerism.
>>
>> I don't need a cell phone, no one NEEDS a cell phone. I don't
>> need to impress others, I just need to be satisfied with my own
>> behavior - not some life style Madison Avenue tries to create.
>>
>> Success is defined by yourself, not others, and certainly not
>> the advertising industry. I don't want to be "successful," I'd
>> rather be happy.
>
>For that matter, you don't even need to be alive.
>
>If there's some material thing that I think will make my life more
>enjoyable, and if I can afford to buy it without jeopardizing my
>ability to buy other things I might want more (such as food or
>shelter), then I have no problem buying it.
>
No problem there - I'm railing against the mindless "need" created by
advertising. It even impacts the thought processes or lexicon . . .
Someone asks if I "need another beer." Hardly - I didn't "need" the
first one. Would I "like" another? Well, yes.
>As it turns out, I tend to be rather frugal, for the most part --
>but that's because I generally see things as a means to an end
>rather than as an end unto themselves. But if it makes you happy
>knowing that you've bought the entire set of ``collectible''
>plates, knock yourself out.
I don't know how many people are able to distinguish the means from
the end today.
Everything has a price to the environment even the collectible dust
gathering plates aren't benign - from the kiln and energy they take to
fire or the lead in the glaze, cadmium in the pigments, etc..
>
>But do, of course, kindly refrain from overly indulging in things
>-- like SUVs -- that make the world a worse place for the rest of
>us....
SUV's . . . I agree.
>
>Cheers,
>
>b&
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