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Author: VV Date: Oct 5, 2007 21:22
On Sep 13, 4:27?pm, stoney the.net> wrote:> A Washington, DC, airport ticket agent offers some examples of why our
> country is in trouble!
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> 1. I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman ask for an aisle seat so that
> her hair wouldn't get messed up by being near the window. (On an
> airplane!)
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> 2. I got a call from a candidate's staffer, who wanted to go to
> Capetown. I started to explain the length of the flight and the
> passport information, then she interrupted me with, "I'm not trying to
> make you look stupid, but Capetown is in
> ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Massachusetts."
>
> Without trying to make her look stupid, I calmly explained, "Cape Cod
> is in Massachusetts, Capetown is in Africa." Her response - click.
>
> 3. A senior Vermont Congressman called, furious about a Florida
> package we did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando.
> He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain that's ...
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Author: Don StockbauerDon Stockbauer Date: Oct 6, 2007 05:20
On Oct 5, 11:22 pm, V aol.com> wrote:> On Sep 13, 4:27?pm, stoney the.net> wrote:
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>>> A Washington, DC, airport ticket agent offers some examples of why our
>> country is in trouble!
>
>> 1. I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman ask for an aisle seat so that
>> her hair wouldn't get messed up by being near the window. (On an
>> airplane!)
>
>> 2. I got a call from a candidate's staffer, who wanted to go to
>> Capetown. I started to explain the length of the flight and the
>> passport information, then she interrupted me with, "I'm not trying to
>> make you look stupid, but Capetown is in
>> ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Massachusetts."
>
>> Without trying to make her look stupid, I calmly explained, "Cape Cod
>> is in Massachusetts, Capetown is in Africa." Her response - click. ...
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Author: Fred WeissFred Weiss Date: Oct 7, 2007 02:15
On Oct 6, 12:22 am, V aol.com> wrote:
> The earth is overpopulated and things will only get worse.
The Malthusians never give up - nearly 200 years of evidence to the
contrary notwithstanding.
> China and India are just starting to bloom with their demands for
> fossil fuels We haven't seen anything yet with the meteoric rise of
> gas and energy.
Good for them - and it is also benefiting us enormously. The more they
"bloom" the better it will get - both for us and them - with no end in
sight.
> In China the per capita car ownership rate is 40 car owners per 1000
> persons. In India it is much lower, running 8 cars per 1000 people. As
> these two giants evolve more of their population will want cars...in
> India, they are making a $2500 car as well.
Horrors. We should really take steps to keep them impoverished. What
right do the Chinese and Indians have to enjoy the benefits of modern
technology? Oxcarts and back-breaking physical drudgery for them!
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Oct 7, 2007 06:43
>> The earth is overpopulated and things will only get worse.
> The Malthusians never give up - nearly 200 years of evidence to the
> contrary notwithstanding.
At current growth rates there will only be one square foot/person in
600 years.
That's with 3/4th of the people treading water in the oceans.
Since the sunlight/ft^2 is < 20 watts there will be famines _long_
before the end of the next six hundred years.
Long before that, in the next century, all oil, tar sand, oilemulsion
and oil shale will be gone making agriculture much less productive.
By next summer the price of gasoline will be $4/gallon and the summer
after that $5/gallon.
High tech communications, however, requires very little energy so the
country will still be wired allowing for the restoration of the
sovereignty of the people and some sanity to national energy policy.
Bret Cahill
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Author: Fred WeissFred Weiss Date: Oct 7, 2007 08:17
On Oct 7, 9:43 am, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:>>> The earth is overpopulated and things will only get worse.
>> The Malthusians never give up - nearly 200 years of evidence to the
>> contrary notwithstanding.
>
> At current growth rates there will only be one square foot/person in
> 600 years.
Only 600 years, huh?
Wow.
> Since the sunlight/ft^2 is < 20 watts there will be famines _long_
> before the end of the next six hundred years.
Like I said, the Mathusians never give up.
> By next summer the price of gasoline will be $4/gallon and the summer
> after that $5/gallon.
Finally catching up to Europe. Actually, it's $9/gallon in Norway.
And what will our taxes be if your girl gets elected?
> High tech communications, however, requires very little energy so the
> country will still be wired ...
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Oct 7, 2007 15:38
>>>> The earth is overpopulated and things will only get worse.
>>> The Malthusians never give up - nearly 200 years of evidence to the
>>> contrary notwithstanding.
>> At current growth rates there will only be one square foot/person in
>> 600 years.
> Only 600 years, huh?
Kind of a long time frame for aimless shallow weak minded trash who
never passed a single college logic, math or science course, ain't it?
> Wow.
You cut - snipped the part about 3/4ths of the population treading
water.
What's wrong? Afraid to face reality?
>> Since the sunlight/ft^2 is < 20 watts there will be famines _long_
>> before the end of the next six hundred years.
> Like I said, the Mathusians never give up.
Well maybe a pea brain can be kept alive on 20 watts . . .
>> By next summer the price of gasoline will be $4/gallon and the summer
>> after that $5/gallon.
> Finally catching up to Europe.
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Date: Oct 8, 2007 14:57
I am curious if you can point to time in history where population
control coupled with reduced technology levels ever made things
better. Easter Island comes to mind, but since that did not end so
well I'm not sure that is the best example.
However, I can provide countless examples where people were give the
freedom to choose how to live and coupled with new technology solved
numerous problems.
I.E. Don't tell me how many kids to have and what to drive and I
won't do the same for you.
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Author: Michael GrayMichael Gray Date: Oct 8, 2007 18:58
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:57:34 -0000, MichaelNJ@ gmail.com wrote:
>I am curious if you can point to time in history where population
>control coupled with reduced technology levels ever made things
>better. Easter Island comes to mind, but since that did not end so
>well I'm not sure that is the best example.
>
>However, I can provide countless examples where people were give the
>freedom to choose how to live and coupled with new technology solved
>numerous problems.
>
>I.E. Don't tell me how many kids to have and what to drive and I
>won't do the same for you.
Who the hell are you talking to here?
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Author: picopico Date: Oct 8, 2007 19:09
"Michael Gray" newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:i1olg3talglfk6j2os0jiil6mq6hqpf2uo@4ax.com...> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:57:34 -0000, MichaelNJ@ gmail.com wrote:
> >>I am curious if you can point to time in history where population
>>control coupled with reduced technology levels ever made things
>>better. Easter Island comes to mind, but since that did not end so
>>well I'm not sure that is the best example.
Easter Island ran out of resources. They took all the trees and bush. Little
would grow. Their major food was chickens, and finally could not even
support them. Further, they had a few different tribes in the area.
Alltogether it became unstable and people left.
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Oct 8, 2007 19:55
> I am curious if you can point to time in history where population
> control coupled with reduced technology levels ever made things
> better. Easter Island comes to mind, but since that did not end so
> well I'm not sure that is the best example.
>
> However, I can provide countless examples where people were give the
> freedom to choose how to live and coupled with new technology solved
> numerous problems.
The new technology, however, always comes from those who "choose" to
have less kids.
> I.E. Don't tell me how many kids to have and what to drive and I
> won't do the same for you.
The tragedy of the commons.
Bret Cahill
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