On Sep 6, 12:02Â pm, "THE BORG"
heaven.com> wrote:>> Mysticism is about self discovery. The irony is, most of the great
>> teachers of the past who provided the foundation for modern scientific
>> discovery, where in fact mystics. There is an 'outer' interpretation
>> for every inner reality.
>
>> The image maker made images in the image of the image maker.
>
>> Imagine that!
>
>> BOfL
>
> Self discovery does not however run the Universe.
Correct,but is the purpose "for" the universe.Lawyers run the law, but
justice is 'individual'.
> Those who are in power or in command or in charge - have more to think about
> than self discovery.
We each have our role in the great scheme.The more one recognises
self, the more one recognises such realities.
> The point of those in charge is that they do NOT think of themselves - they
> think of others.
This is the role of the universal mind. As in the physical body, the
white corpuscles "think" of the overall body with respect to invading
bacteria. That is there role . The effect that such bacteria has on
the human psyche, is somethig such cells are not concerned with.
> Dwelling on yourself and your own journey and your own voyage of self
> discovery is fine if you are not one of the ones responsible for maintaining
> the illusion of matter or arranging the synchronicity and masterminding the
> intelligent design or giving ideas and thoughts and inspiration and hundreds
> of other things.
Part of the role you are discribing "is" that of self discovery. We
earn our way 'through' the illusions.
> The point is that one day Brian when you have become the best human you can
> possibly be you will then learn that it is thinking of others and caring for
> others that are the qualities of the Leaders and Controllers and Masters.
One thing you dont yet grasp, in the role you are comitted to (and by
the way is fully appreciated) is that a state of consciousness has
nothing whatever to do with the human condition.
(Some here will think we have 'lost the plot" but we know why they
would think that:-)
> And if you wish to evolve or travel up to the next level - become a God if
> you like - then AFTER your voyage of self discovery where you become the
> best human you can be - you then learn that you can become another kind of
> life form - a God if you like - and then the whole ball game changes as you
> learn then what you must do to become the best God.
This is where your 'next level' fits the "as above, so below" reality.
Just a more 'refined' understanding of religiosity.
Im not referring to 'levels', but total integration. No good, bad,
higher or lower. Just 'is'ness. Of course some confuse this with a
medative state of passive observation. Nothing could be further from
'the' truth.Literally.
>Â And after you have
> become the best God so it goes on - up and up the chain of existence - until
> you do finally reach the pure goodness and love and kindness and superior
> intelligence and these kind of things.
Correct, but this is a 'now' position, and as I said, has nothing to
do with ones current biological form, although Im informed that the
human condition is unique as a platform for such discovery, and why
many from 'the next step' have to (and often chose to) re visit this
state.
> You will not stay human for ever and ever. Â You will not bow and revere and
> pray to others who you think greater. Â You must learn to become better so
> that others bow and revere and pray to you.
Thanks for confirming my statement about 'relativity'. Higher , lower
etc. You dont need to leave the physical body to see that at work.
> At the moment you do this by your self discovery and you learn to become a
> better human. Â But ultimately you must progress up the chain of existence -
> higher and higher.
Again, nothing whatever to do with the biological stage.No higher, now
lower, no better, no worse.Sounds like one of the popular ceremonies.
"For better, for worse, for richer, for poorer"
Now theres a challenge. Of course, makes no sense untill one
understands the spiritual reality of such statements.
> Â You cannot stay at the low level of human for ever if
> you really are a truly good, wise and intelligent person.
> As you travel up the ladder - so you then help those lower or further
> behind.
The role becomes that of a catalyst. No need to direct. Thats one for
the judges and power brokers.
> Humans are very low and very far behind, and currently they emulate Gods -
> who they see as superior beings. Â But Gods are not that great. Â There are
> far better and more perfect life forms that are higher up the chain of
> existence.
You are talking 'from' a group consciousness, 'about' a group
consciousness
> You must seek to be greater and better rather than constantly look to others
> to lead you and show the way.
You are now starting to see what self realization is about.
Ill leave the rest to go where it is needed.
BOfL
> You must inherently KNOW the way yourself. Â Without resorting to texts or
> books or teachings of other humans. Â Only then can you evolve and change -
> and maybe become immortal - as you personally KNOW within yourself what is
> right or wrong - you have good judgement - you are kind and good and only
> then will you rise higher than the very low human existence who are still
> idolizing Gods. Â And Gods are very low down with regard to how high you can
> go on the ladder of perfect beings and existence.
> So although your journey now must lead you to self discovery and becoming a
> better human. Â This is very early days for what you can become.
>
> Gods also experience self discovery and learning - and they also wish to
> improve and become better as people. Â As you can see from the stories on
> Earth about Gods, they are not that great are they!!!! Â It is easy to
> surpass Gods and become better than Gods. Â But first you must surpass
> humans. Â If you do not know yourself about judgement and universal laws of
> life and inherent good behaviour - then no one can teach you. Â No religion
> no human - there is nothing and no one can Earth can teach you what you
> should KNOW if you are to transcend the human existence and evolve up to the
> next level. Â You must have your own personal judgement - and you should know
> in all situations what to do and how to behave without thinking of "should I
> turn the other cheek" or "should I love my enemies" or this kind of tosh.
> Yes there would be times for turning the other cheek but equally there are
> times not to - and you have to know when and why. Â There are times for war,
> times for peace - there are times for truth, times for lies. Â You have to
> know in all circumstances what to do and how to behave. Â You must have your
> own inherent perfect judgement. Â And only than will you rise higher than the
> human.
>
> Gods are a peculiar breed of people - and you may find Guardians and
> Warriors are far better people to revere and emulate than Gods. Â And if you
> do rise higher than the human and the human existence - you may be a Master
> or Teacher or Guardian - who knows?
> But Gods are two a penny - some even walk on Earth and live amongst you.
> Some people you meet in day to day life are Gods.
> To humans they view the level of "God" as quite high up - but not so at
> all - look at the stories - they are mainly violent or prejudiced. Â The Gods
> make errors and mistakes and do often do not have good judgement.
> Set your sights on being "better" than any God and you will not fail to one
> day be the Master you would like to be.
> And the Universe is a big place - always room for another Master.
> And the Universe is only the start of the dimensions and planes and levels
> of existence and the absolute diversity of the different kinds of life there
> are.
> Even the young tortoise must have attention and teaching. Â Love and
> affection. Â They have their own little thoughts you know.
> THE BORG
