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Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Harry Bailey
Date: Jun 6, 2008 11:34

"National Socialists for Israel"

And unsurprisingly, a recent report in Har'retz states:

"Nazis against anti-Semitism? As bizarre as that sounds, a group of
Germans which calls itself "National Socialists For Israel" launched
its Web site in support of Israel.

"Stop the hatred of the Jewish people," the Web site reads. "The Jews
are a healthy, strong nation."

The organization - whose members have yet to reveal themselves to the
public - claims that Israel's right to exist is anchored in the
principles of social Darwinism, the same principles which the Nazis
adopted prior to the Second World War."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/990228.html
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On Jun 3, 12:59 pm, Harry Bailey yahoo.com> wrote:
> I see that Jean luc Godard has just announced that he is boycotting
> this year's Tel-Aviv film festival, following an open letter
> suggesting he do so from the Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and
> Cultural Boycott of Israel:
>
> http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=4&Artic...
>
> I should add that it seems most unlikely that US film-maker John
> Sayles, who has also been invited to the Tel-Aviv film festival, will
> be boycotting the event. This may appear quite incredible given
> Sayles' status as one of America's leading political film-makers of
> the past 30 years; indeed, some of his work is often confused with
> that of British film-maker Ken Loach, who boycotted Zionist Israel
> long ago (many not knowing which of them directed, for instance, Bread
> and Roses, Carla's Song, Matewan, Sunshine State, Lone Star, Land and
> Freedom etc), their social realist aesthetics often indistinguishable.
> But Sayles, unlike Loach, has always funded his independent films from
> the proceeds of his scriptwriting for mainstream Hollywood movies, his
> latest writing venture being the script for Steven Spielberg's soon-to-
> be-released Jurassic Park IV (he also wrote the script that later
> became the basis for Spielberg's E.T. in the early 1980s). An obvious
> political landmine here, business corruption always trumps enlightened
> politics in Hollywood, even on the left, as we know from the legacy of
> McCarthyism..
>
> No, sad to say, Sayles won't be joining.
> ------------------
>
> But to resume the subject at hand:
>
> "The attachment to race theory, for example, was presumably why it
> didn't seem odd for Zionist leaders to be inviting Adolf Eichmann to
> visit Palestine in 1937; why Vladimir Jabotinsky, the founder of
> Likudism, so admired Mussolini (who was himself pro-Zionist); why
> Mossad was working with the Gestapo to arrange Jewish deportation from
> Germany at the behest of Reinhard Heydrich in 1939, later a chief
> architect of the Nazi holocaust (he gave his name to one of its chief
> components, Operation Reinhard); and why the Haganah (the Zionist
> paramilitary which formed the core of the IDF) was receiving arms from
> the SS. It was, all of it, part of the same murky world of colonial
> domination, racist mysticism (the blood and soil kind) and volkish
> nationalism."
> -------------------------------------------------
> The roots of Israeli barbarism
>
> We have heard from people like UN Special Rapporteur John Dugard, who
> says that the Zionist regime is worse than apartheid. The Israeli
> historian Ilan Pappe now argues that Israel is pursuing a genocidal
> policy in Gaza. The Israeli government's open threats of ethnic
> cleansing and mass violence in civilian areas alongside the repeated
> sieges, the imposed starvation, the mass imprisonment and the
> killings, coupled with a deep-rooted perception of Palestinians as a
> 'demographic threat' and, well, everything else, could be seen as
> adding weight to this view. But if the Israeli strategy is genocidal,
> this is the latest degenerate stage in an ongoing counterinsurgency
> war, the character of which is not well understood even by our own
> gluttonously free press. Well, this is what can be said about the
> ordinary run of the mill war, when there isn't a major theatre attack,
> a mass crackdown, a re-invasion, an annexation or another country to
> bomb: Israeli troops repeatedly use indiscriminate violence,
> deliberate violence against civilians including against minors, they
> use civilians as human shields, they detain tens of thousands
> illegally, and they torture and rape prisoners. If you're a B'Tselem,
> Amnesty, or even Human Rights Watch worker concerned with Israel/
> Palestine, you encounter daily, grinding brutality that is rarely if
> ever reported. Let me give you only a few examples. Here are some
> excerpts from the latest B'Tselem report on human rights in the
> 'Occupied Territories':
>
> Of those killed in 2007, at least 132 were civilians who were taking
> no part in the hostilities at the time they were killed. As for
> another 50, we were unable to determine the relevant circumstances.
> According to these figures, approximately 35 percent of the
> Palestinians killed in 2007 in circumstances known to B'Tselem were
> civilians not involved in the fighting. In 2006, 348 civilians
> uninvolved in the fighting were killed (54 percent). Illegal behavior
> of an individual soldier and his commander is not the only cause for
> the high number of Palestinians killed who were not taking part in
> hostilities and posed no danger to security forces. The primary reason
> for these deaths is Israeli policy, set by the army’s top echelon:
> illegal easing of the military's rules of engagement, approval of
> operations that constitute disproportionate attacks, and failure to
> carry out independent investigations in cases in which innocent
> Palestinian civilians are killed.
>
> ...
>
> Another example of illegal expansion of the rules of engagement is the
> establishment of “death zones” in areas close to the Gaza perimeter
> fence. According to testimonies given to B'Tselem, certain units are
> ordered to open fire automatically at any person approaching the
> fence, without giving prior warning and regardless of the
> circumstances or the identity of the person. This practice is
> particularly grave because of the lack of demarcation, by signs or
> otherwise, of the area in which entry is prohibited. In 2007, security
> forces killed 55 Palestinians who tried to cross the Gaza perimeter
> fence or were near the fence, in some cases even at a distance greater
> than 100 meters. Of these, at least 16 were unarmed and not engaged in
> hostilities, including four minors.
>
> ...
>
> In 2007, B'Tselem documented in detail 74 cases in which security
> forces beat (by punching, kicking, clubbing, or hitting with rifle
> butts), humiliated, or threatened Palestinians. The perpetrators were
> soldiers (in 41 cases), Border Police officers (27 cases), and members
> of the regular police (6 cases) ... B'Tselem’s monitoring of
> demonstrations against the Separation Barrier since 2004 indicates
> that about 1,000 demonstrators have required medical treatment due to
> injury from rubbercoated metal bullets, beatings, or tear gas
> inhalation. Over 320 of these people were injured in 2007.
>
> ...
>
> More than 6,000 Palestinians from the West Bank were detained in 2007
> by Israel’s security forces. A significant majority of them were
> subsequently interrogated by the Israel Security Agency on suspicion
> of involvement in "hostile terror activity". In these interrogations,
> the ISA, together with the Prison Service and Israel Police, routinely
> use prison conditions and interrogation methods that individually
> constitute forbidden ill-treatment.
>
> ...
>
> The phenomenon of soldiers using Palestinians to perform dangerous
> military tasks or to protect soldiers from gunfire (in other words,
> using them as human shields) continued in 2007. Until mid-December,
> B'Tselem documented 10 such cases, although it is likely that this
> represents a minority of the cases that occurred.
>
> These are conservative estimates based on documented cases, but they
> clearly describe the systematic use of indiscriminate killing,
> beatings, mass imprisonment, torture and the use of Palestinians as
> human shields. I quoted some other examples of Israel's regular
> brutalisation of civilians here. I want also to comment specifically
> on the treatment of Palestinian children before moving on, because the
> deliberate harming of children in any war is indicative of its
> degeneracy - and is used as an indicator of such in most other wars.
> The arrest and long-term detention of children is typical. For
> example, in the months of February to May 2002, 8,500 Palestinians
> were arrested in the West Bank, 10%% of whom were children. The
> circumstances were characteristic of an Israeli crackdown: door to
> door house searches, with the rounding up of anyone who the soldiers
> deemed a threat. The children, like their relatives, were frequently
> beaten before being arrested, handcuffed, blindfolded for long periods
> of time, denied access to medical treatment which they needed, and
> subject to physical and psychological torture. One fifteen year old
> boy described being beaten for an hour, his legs trampled on, then
> thrown from one corner of the room to another for fifteen minutes,
> then sprayed with cold water, then tied to iron steps which caused him
> to fall and injure himself, then punched in the face. He also had
> cigarettes stubbed out on his body and was struck with a steel ruler.
> That's just one example. (See Catherine Cook et al, Stolen Youth: The
> Politics of Israel's Detention of Palestinian Children, Pluto Press,
> 2004). The deliberate baiting and shooting of children has also been
> reported. Chris Hedges wrote in 2001 of this practise by Israeli
> soldiers at an Israeli colony ('settlement') near the Palestinian
> refugee camp Faqah:
>
> It is still. The camp waits, as if holding its breath. And then, out
> of the dry furnace air, a disembodied voice crackles over a
> loudspeaker.
>
> "Come on, dogs," the voice booms in Arabic. "Where are all the dogs of
> Khan Younis? Come! Come!"
>
> I stand up. I walk outside the hut. The invective continues to spew:
> "Son of a bitch!" "Son of a whore!" "Your mother's cunt!"
>
> The boys dart in small packs up the sloping dunes to the electric
> fence that separates the camp from the Jewish settlement. They lob
> rocks toward two armored jeeps parked on top of the dune and mounted
> with loudspeakers. Three ambulances line the road below the dunes in
> anticipation of what is to come.
>
> A percussion grenade explodes. The boys, most no more than ten or
> eleven years old, scatter, running clumsily across the heavy sand.
> They descend out of sight behind a sandbank in front of me. There are
> no sounds of gunfire. The soldiers shoot with silencers. The bullets
> from the M-16 rifles tumble end over end through the children's slight
> bodies. Later, in the hospital, I will see the destruction: the
> stomachs ripped out, the gaping holes in limbs and torsos.
> ...
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