Re: Why Electric Motors Are 3X - 4X More Efficient Than Internal Combustion
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Re: Why Electric Motors Are 3X - 4X More Efficient Than Internal Combustion         

Group: alt.philosophy · Group Profile
Author: Eeyore
Date: Aug 19, 2008 12:10

z wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
>> "Daniel T." wrote:
>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>
>>>> Sure, but where does the electricity come from?
>>
>>> Power plants that run at much higher efficiency
>>
>> Not that great actually.
>>
>>> (and much cleaner per kilowatt of energy produced) than any automobile
>>> engine
>>
>> How do you reckon they're cleaner ?
>>
>>> could ever hope to do.
>>
>> Overall thermal efficiency from typical power plant to power socket is in
>> the 30-40%% region.
>>
>> A very large marine diesel can and does EXCEED 50%% thermal efficiency. Only
>> now are combined cycle gas turbine generators coming on line that can beat
>> that but you still have transmission losses.
>>
>> Graham
>
> Little known fact; efficiency of electrical generation is currently
> half of what it was in Edison's day. Well, it's a trick question,
> though; Edison was businessman enough to sell off the heat as a
> byproduct (isn't that what they call cogeneration?) but today
> utilities, as monopolies, are too lazy too chase that efficiency/cash.
> too bad for all of us.

Good point.

Certain Scandinavian countries in particular make use of this 'waste heat' for
district heating.

I can see a potential move to local district co-gen (as opposed to GW central
plants) being very attractive.

Graham
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