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Author: Sgt.SausageSgt.Sausage Date: Dec 20, 2007 18:37
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:00:08 -0500, "Sgt.Sausage" nowhere.com>
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>>>Y'all assume I'm a free rider. My income taxes due last
>>year were over $60,000. Paid another $15,000 in property
>>taxes and just shy of $10,000 in cap-gains tax.
>
> Hehe. How much property tax have you paid in the last ten years?
More than I'd care to even think about. More than you'll
pay in your entire lifetime.
> How much did your property appreciate in that time, without you havng
> to lift a productive finger?
"appreciation" is bullshit. Millions of folks are figuring
out right now that you can't eat an equity sandwich. "Appreciation"
is a farce -- nothing more than numbers on paper -- not real dollars,
not real wealth -- and any "appreciation" has is simply an illusion.
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Dec 20, 2007 21:04
>> Hehe. �How much property tax have you paid in the last ten years?
> More than I'd care to even think about.
Sounds like you need to call 1-800-FLY-4-LESS and book the next one
way flight to Mogadishu in low tax Somalia.
Bret Cahill
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Author: roylsroyls Date: Dec 22, 2007 00:32
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:37:59 -0500, "Sgt.Sausage" nowhere.com>
wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:00:08 -0500, "Sgt.Sausage" nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>Y'all assume I'm a free rider. My income taxes due last
>>>year were over $60,000. Paid another $15,000 in property
>>>taxes and just shy of $10,000 in cap-gains tax.
>>
>> Hehe. How much property tax have you paid in the last ten years?
>
>More than I'd care to even think about.
Oh, I'm sure of that. None of that horrid "thinking" stuff for you...
>More than you'll pay in your entire lifetime.
So you are a land rent parasite, just as I suspected. Check.
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Author: Fred WeissFred Weiss Date: Dec 22, 2007 02:21
On Dec 21, 12:04 am, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:>>> Hehe. �How much property tax have you paid in the last ten years?
>> More than I'd care to even think about.
>
> Sounds like you need to call 1-800-FLY-4-LESS and book the next one
> way flight to Mogadishu in low tax Somalia.
Brat has decided that being against taxes is un-American, forgetting
the long, deep-rooted history of tax rebellion from opposition to the
Stamp Act which sparked the Revolution, to the Whiskey Rebellion of
1794 to Calif. Proposition 13 in 1978 to "Hands Across NJ" in 1990
opposing Gov. Jim Florio's tax increase - and which led in 1991 to the
first Republican sweep of the state legislature in 20 years.
Brat would prefer not to face the fact that it is his tax-increasing
Democrat cohorts who more often than not are sent packing "to Somalia"
- and at the polls by his vaunted democracy.
Fred Weiss
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Author: Peder B. PelsPeder B. Pels Date: Dec 22, 2007 13:14
Fred Weiss papertig.com> wrote:
> On Dec 21, 12:04 am, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:>>>> Hehe. ?How much property tax have you paid in the last ten years?
>>> More than I'd care to even think about.
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>> Sounds like...
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Author: Bret CahillBret Cahill Date: Dec 22, 2007 13:50
>>>>> Hehe. ?How much property tax have you paid in the last ten years?
>>>> More than I'd care to even think about.
>>> Sounds like you need to call 1-800-FLY-4-LESS and book the next one
>>> way flight to Mogadishu in low tax Somalia.
>> Brat has decided that being against taxes is un-American,
Since patriotism is collectivist by definition, then patriotism should
not be any reason for liberdopic - Randroid types to stay in the U. S.
and pay taxes to the collective.
It's not a matter of being unAmerican but having choices.
In some nations like the Somalia paradise, taxes are low.
In other countries like the high tax hell hole Netherlands, taxes are
high.
> forgetting
>> the long, deep-rooted history of tax rebellion from opposition to the
>> Stamp Act which sparked the Revolution,
The opposition during the Revolution wasn't to taxes but to rent, aka,
"taxation w/o representation."
>> to the Whiskey Rebellion of
>> 1794 to Calif. Proposition 13 in 1978
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Author: Fred WeissFred Weiss Date: Dec 23, 2007 06:17
On Dec 22, 4:50 pm, Bret Cahill aol.com> wrote:
> Since patriotism is collectivist by definition,...
By whose definition? Presumably then by the same "definition" which
makes contributing to the Ayn Rand Institute collectivist!
Collectivism, Brat, is not merely joining others who share your values
in a common cause. It is the subservience of the individual to the
group. It is putting the group *above* oneself.
> It's not a matter of being unAmerican but having choices.
>
> In some nations like the Somalia paradise, taxes are low.
If you don't count the tribute paid to the warlords.
Bring up Somalia when you are arguing with an anarchist. I do myself.
But I'm not an anarchist. So, with me, it's a lame strawman. I believe
a gov't of laws is essential to a civilized society.
> In other countries like the high tax hell hole Netherlands, taxes are
> high.
Or in other countries which are experiencing high economic growth
where taxes are low, such as the Baltic countries.
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Author: Sgt.SausageSgt.Sausage Date: Dec 23, 2007 16:15
> Brat has decided that being against taxes is un-American, forgetting
> the long, deep-rooted history of tax rebellion from opposition to the
> Stamp Act which sparked the Revolution, to the Whiskey Rebellion of
> 1794 to Calif. Proposition 13 in 1978 to "Hands Across NJ" in 1990
> opposing Gov. Jim Florio's tax increase - and which led in 1991 to the
> first Republican sweep of the state legislature in 20 years.
> Brat would prefer not to face the fact that it is his tax-increasing
> Democrat cohorts who more often than not are sent packing "to Somalia"
>- and at the polls by his vaunted democracy.
Actually, he'a all for taxes
-- so long as he doesn't have to pay 'em.
When someone else pays 'em (those damnedable evil rich), it's AOK
with him. Ask him to cough up and it's crickets all the way.
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Author: Sgt.SausageSgt.Sausage Date: Dec 23, 2007 17:09
>>More than you'll pay in your entire lifetime.
>
> So you are a land rent parasite, just as I suspected. Check.
Sooo ... Lemme get this straight: Anyone who makes more money
than you and pays more taxes than you is a "land rent parasite",
right?
Just checking. Definitions should be precise, shouldn't they?
> Oddly enough, the appreciation of Micro$oft stock is the only thing
> that has made Bill Gates the world's richest man. Warren Buffet?
> Appreciation. Carlos Slim Helu? Appreciation. Etc.
>
> Stupid, lying garbage.
Oddly enought, his stock suffers the same problem. It's
a paper gain. He has exactly diddley-squat until he sells.
Subject to the same fluctuating ups and downs as the housing
market -- but at least in terms of stock equities ... somehow
Uncle Sam got that one right. You don't pay your taxes on those
until you execute a sale.
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