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Re: why do so many u.s. serials lack swear words?!         


Author: ranck
Date: Nov 14, 2007 15:42

In rec.arts.tv sirblob2@hotmail.com wrote:
> lost four seasons without a single fucking swear word, how realistic
> is that? not to mention the laughable fascist the unit. are the neo-
> con libertarian lobbies in power again to blame?

Because a show that goes out over the air on a network is too
constrained by the threat of FCC fines. I say by the threat
because the FCC does not define in advance what is acceptable or not,
but only imposes fines after the fact based on a complaint. Of course,
there is *always* someone who will complain on even the mildest
of swear words.

So, if a show is produced to be broadcast in the US, they will
almost always be over cautious about using any swear words because
the FCC will not tell them which words and in what situtations
a violation of "decency" will occur until after the show airs and
they impose a fine.

Shows produced for cable networks are less constrained, but
even some of them are worried the FCC will be given jurisdiction
over their content if they get too many blue hairs complaining
to their congressmen.
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Re: why do so many u.s. serials lack swear words?!         


Author: Paul Hyett
Date: Nov 15, 2007 00:09

In uk.media.tv.misc on Wed, 14 Nov 2007, wrote :
>
>So, if a show is produced to be broadcast in the US, they will
>almost always be over cautious about using any swear words because
>the FCC will not tell them which words and in what situtations
>a violation of "decency" will occur until after the show airs and
>they impose a fine.
>
>Shows produced for cable networks are less constrained, but
>even some of them are worried the FCC will be given jurisdiction
>over their content if they get too many blue hairs complaining
>to their congressmen.

I'm guessing that the US probably has even more 'Mary Whitehouse's' than
Britain does - people with such sad empty lives that they have nothing
better to do than trawl TV shows specifically to find things to be
'offended' at.
--
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett
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Re: why do so many u.s. serials lack swear words?!         


Author: Ed
Date: Nov 15, 2007 02:00

On Nov 15, 8:09 am, Paul Hyett nojunkmailplease.co.uk> wrote:
> In uk.media.tv.misc on Wed, 14 Nov 2007, wrote :
>
>
>
>>So, if a show is produced to be broadcast in the US, they will
>>almost always be over cautious about using any swear words because
>>the FCC will not tell them which words and in what situtations
>>a violation of "decency" will occur until after the show airs and
>>they impose a fine.
>
>>Shows produced for cable networks are less constrained, but
>>even some of them are worried the FCC will be given jurisdiction
>>over their content if they get too many blue hairs complaining
>>to their congressmen.
>
> I'm guessing that the US probably has even more 'Mary Whitehouse's' than
> Britain does - people with such sad empty lives that they have nothing
> better to do than trawl TV shows specifically to find things to be
> 'offended' at. ...
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Re: why do so many u.s. serials lack swear words?!         


Author: George Peatty
Date: Nov 15, 2007 06:26

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:00:06 -0800 (PST), Ed onetel.com> wrote:
>It's a religious problem. The christian lobby has so much power in the
>US and any show seen to be swearing on network TV will immediately get
>pulled off air.

You're watching a different set of TV shows, and maybe living in a different
US as well. The television network shows are filled with profanity, and
it's everywhere. I am part of the Christian lobby you disparage, and, trust
me, none of us feel this power we're supposed to have, not compared to the
power we once had .. And, that is the trend: the erosion of political power
of Christians as Christians in American politics and mores ..
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Author: Kingo Gondo
Date: Nov 15, 2007 07:19

"George Peatty" copper.net> wrote in message
news:1hloj3lpg78o1akp6hmd9aa8j6u3789qmm@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:00:06 -0800 (PST), Ed onetel.com> wrote:
>
>>It's a religious problem. The christian lobby has so much power in the
>>US and any show seen to be swearing on network TV will immediately get
>>pulled off air.
>
> You're watching a different set of TV shows, and maybe living in a
> different
> US as well. The television network shows are filled with profanity, and
> it's everywhere. I am part of the Christian lobby you disparage, and,
> trust
> me, none of us feel this power we're supposed to have, not compared to the
> power we once had .. And, that is the trend: the erosion of political
> power
> of Christians as Christians in American politics...
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Author: Paul Hyett
Date: Nov 15, 2007 10:17

In uk.media.tv.misc on Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Ed wrote :
>On Nov 15, 8:09 am, Paul Hyett nojunkmailplease.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Shows produced for cable networks are less constrained, but
>>>even some of them are worried the FCC will be given jurisdiction
>>>over their content if they get too many blue hairs complaining
>>>to their congressmen.
>>
>> I'm guessing that the US probably has even more 'Mary Whitehouse's' than
>> Britain does - people with such sad empty lives that they have nothing
>> better to do than trawl TV shows specifically to find things to be
>> 'offended' at.
>> --
>> Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett
>
>It's a religious problem. The christian lobby has so much power in the
>US and any show seen to be swearing on network TV will immediately get
>pulled off air. It shows how fucked...
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Re: why do so many u.s. serials lack swear words?!         


Author: ranck
Date: Nov 15, 2007 10:35

In rec.arts.tv Paul Hyett nojunkmailplease.co.uk> wrote:
> In uk.media.tv.misc on Wed, 14 Nov 2007, wrote :
>>
>>So, if a show is produced to be broadcast in the US, they will
>>almost always be over cautious about using any swear words because
>>the FCC will not tell them which words and in what situtations
>>a violation of "decency" will occur until after the show airs and
>>they impose a fine.
>>
>>Shows produced for cable networks are less constrained, but
>>even some of them are worried the FCC will be given jurisdiction
>>over their content if they get too many blue hairs complaining
>>to their congressmen.
> I'm guessing that the US probably has even more 'Mary Whitehouse's' than
> Britain does - people with such sad empty lives that they have nothing
> better to do than trawl TV shows specifically to find things to be
> 'offended' at.
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Author: Howard Brazee
Date: Nov 15, 2007 18:37

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:26:01 -0500, George Peatty
copper.net> wrote:
>You're watching a different set of TV shows, and maybe living in a different
>US as well. The television network shows are filled with profanity, and
>it's everywhere. I am part of the Christian lobby you disparage, and, trust
>me, none of us feel this power we're supposed to have, not compared to the
>power we once had .. And, that is the trend: the erosion of political power
>of Christians as Christians in American politics and mores ..

The Bible proscribes taking the Lord's name in vain. But that's not
what they seem to be objecting to. Using the wrong synonym for
"poop" or "procreate" doesn't have anything to do with Christianity.
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Author: Alan Hope
Date: Nov 15, 2007 23:41

George Peatty goes:
>On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:00:06 -0800 (PST), Ed onetel.com> wrote:
>>It's a religious problem. The christian lobby has so much power in the
>>US and any show seen to be swearing on network TV will immediately get
>>pulled off air.
>You're watching a different set of TV shows, and maybe living in a different
>US as well. The television network shows are filled with profanity, and
>it's everywhere. I am part of the Christian lobby you disparage, and, trust
>me, none of us feel this power we're supposed to have, not compared to the
>power we once had .. And, that is the trend: the erosion of political power
>of Christians as Christians in American politics and mores ..

Let's all stand and give a big round of applause to the erosion of
power of the nutjobs who think a big guy with a beard who lives in the
sky has some right to tell the rest of us how to live.

Taliban = religious right of any stripe. They're all the fucking same
under the robes.

--
AH
http://grapes2dot0.blogspot.com
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Author: Alan Hope
Date: Nov 15, 2007 23:43

Howard Brazee goes:
>On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:26:01 -0500, George Peatty
>copper.net> wrote:
>>You're watching a different set of TV shows, and maybe living in a different
>>US as well. The television network shows are filled with profanity, and
>>it's everywhere. I am part of the Christian lobby you disparage, and, trust
>>me, none of us feel this power we're supposed to have, not compared to the
>>power we once had .. And, that is the trend: the erosion of political power
>>of Christians as Christians in American politics and mores ..
>The Bible proscribes taking the Lord's name in vain. But that's not
>what they seem to be objecting to. Using the wrong synonym for
>"poop" or "procreate" doesn't have anything to do with Christianity.

The Christian Right envies the Taliban because they had no trouble
taking over a whole country once, and they won't have too much trouble
next time, either.

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